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[Stifler's Mom]

You forgot uphill both ways in the snow. :erm:

 

[JoeMerchant]

You forgot uphill both ways in the snow. :erm:

OCP wanted examples of how it was worse...I gave him examples..

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Your examples were many years ago, and many contracts ago, so they don't matter.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Your examples were many years ago, and many contracts ago, so they don't matter.

They do when someone tells me I don't understand how bad it is to be on reserve...Getting tired of being told I had it so much better back then...That dog won't hunt and it isn't going to garner much sympathy...

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Without going back over the numerous threads about this, I believe you have responded to OCP, 79% and COOPERVANE by comparing your reality as a reserve to their realities as a reserve.

They are different opinions, but there is no reason to discredit their opinions by playing the "I had it worse card." That was my point by saying your opinions didn't matter because they were so long ago. Your realities years ago are what helped improve our current contract, and their realities will help improve the next contract.

I would challenge you to try and improve our contract, but you have already stated that you like ASA to be average in the Regional World. I don't agree with your stance on this subject, but I understand where it is coming from.

 

[701EV]

"Originally Posted by 79%N1
I know, for a fact, that nearly every pilot at ASA over 11 years never sat reserve for more than a month or two. If you are here around 9 years, you have probably been on reserve for more than 3 years. (All while lineholders are picking up open time at 200%)"

79%N1,

I fit into that window. I spent about 6 years on reserve.

 

[COOPERVANE]

I have sat reserve under both the old AND the new contracts. On paper, the new contract is superior. But unless you have sat reserve this last summer, you simply don't know how bad it can be. ALL of our gains were LOOPHOLED away. Or just plain ignored. The only relief was a fatique call as stated above.

In reality the reserve rules in force around '03-'04 were no worse. It really wasn't that bad. Cant speak for earlier.

Can we please be grown-ups and realize that just because reserve sucked for you, it doesn't mean that it must suck for everyone after you. I am not too far from holding a line. Once I hold a line I will still think it is a good idea to improve reserve rules. Are you senior guys so selfish that you only want to improve your own lives and screw everyone else? Don't give me 60% FO pay or we'll strike argument. Like this issue, it's was just the right thing to do.