can you refuse to "speak" with a controller???

[IronCityBlue]

Did he call you Cactus by accident? lol

:laugh: OK that was a good one!

 

[IronCityBlue]

Hey guys they cut us breaks all the time. We should do the same. Hopefully it will someday become taboo to rat each other out....

Amen. Why is that so hard for people to understand?

 

[becket]

FYI. I do not have to give out my initials on the frequency.

If you have a problem, make a note of the frequency and the date/time. When you get on the ground, call the facility (FSS can give you the phone numbers, or if you're at the airport associated with the facility, the ramp tower usually has the number). Then call on the telephone and ask for a supervisor. Remember a calm and professional telephone call will go a lot farther than an upset caller. Give the freq and time to the supe - this will allow them to listen (later) to the tape and do what we call a QAR (Quality Assurance Review). They know who the controller is b/c we all must sign onto a position while we are responsible for it. Asking for initials will do nothing but (unfortnately, human nature) cause you more grief with this person. Be polite and professional on the freq, just b/c the controller may be inappropriate, does not give you license to do the same. Remember these tapes can also work against or for your cause when listened to.

Or one could just grow a set, take a midol, and get on with it.

 

[GuinessGuy]

the original post was perfect for flaming........we can do better than this........

 

[Bavarian Chef]

the original post was perfect for flaming........we can do better than this........

We can? Well, I see you're not new to flightinfo, so maybe you have amnesia or sumpin.

 

[dirkdigler]

This would make a good "Tell me abou the time when ...." type question during interviews! I can remember one of my girlfrieds back in middle school got all hissy about something like this. Just make sure your high school buddys would back you up though.

 

[higherflyer]

There was a Gulfstream with an American crew that bagged it into a mountainside some years ago because the controller spoke very poor English. Does anyone remember where that was? I remember a video from training about that.

I think you are referring to the Conoco G-II that crashed in the mountains near Kota Kinabalu back in September 1991. An old boss of mine was on board that plane.

 

[Cardinal]

Damn.... All the good stuff's been said!

...I say find his/her mom and eff her. Best way to get back at someone. Now where on TV did I see this??

I believe this is what you're looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TLA_f7S0cw. "I'm gonna kucf your mom."

 

[Jonny Sacko]

These are the BEST controllers on the planet. No BICHING, and NO PRIVATIZATION. It'd be the worst days we've ever had. Think about it. They have the bad days as we do. End of story!

And Yes this IS a gay thread!

 

[EMB170Pilot]

ok fine it was a gay question - now flame on

move along - there is nothing to see here

it was a happy question?

 

[007]

Hey guys they cut us breaks all the time. We should do the same. Hopefully it will someday become taboo to rat each other out....

Until a few months ago, every time I got a number it was the controllers fault and I let it go. Recently, I screwed up,and even though I put no one in danger, I still got slammed by the controller and the FAA. So I am sorry, but they if screw up now I call the facility.

 

[WabiSabi]

I think you are referring to the Conoco G-II that crashed in the mountains near Kota Kinabalu back in September 1991. An old boss of mine was on board that plane.

Is that the one in which the Captain said something to the effect of "I don't like this, let's get out of here"? They initiated a climb and then impacted the terrain. If that was it or not, it was sad listening to the actual CVR. The accident I'm thinking of was one in which they were just shy of out-climbing the terrain.

 

[spg2bmd]

Im gonna Eff your mom is definately wrong... Ick

 

[zasca]

MVY tower... shudder!

 

[freeflyer14]

Is that the one in which the Captain said something to the effect of "I don't like this, let's get out of here"? They initiated a climb and then impacted the terrain. If that was it or not, it was sad listening to the actual CVR. The accident I'm thinking of was one in which they were just shy of out-climbing the terrain.

AA flight 965... Just shy of out-climbing the terrain because the boards were still out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_965