CAL Snapshot

[IAHERJ]

Would love to fly 756 but the pay and schedules suck compared to the 737.

Might be better in the next contract, but if I wait til then might not be able to hold it.

Oh, yes, our awesome contract means I take a pay HIT to go to training for a couple months.

Gotta love it.

That's a bit of a broad statement. What base are you looking at? IAH756 is about 50% domestic and 50% international. You have to be a bit more senior to get into the base but on a percentage basis, not as senior to fly 767 trips.

 

[bluefin]

Here's a question, not flame bait, a lot of us are in new territory.

Once the new sli is complete an seniority distributed, can there or is there going to be a major re-bid so pilots can hold their respective equipment based on seniority? Not being pro-mamgement, but that would cost a butt-load of money and time. Any ideas how that would work? Scenario: DEN, lots of co commuters there, but it becomes a bus domicle only and folks want to dump commuting, how would that work?

just questions to figure all this stuff out!

 

[IAHERJ]

Here's a question, not flame bait, a lot of us are in new territory.

Once the new sli is complete an seniority distributed, can there or is there going to be a major re-bid so pilots can hold their respective equipment based on seniority? Not being pro-mamgement, but that would cost a butt-load of money and time. Any ideas how that would work? Scenario: DEN, lots of co commuters there, but it becomes a bus domicle only and folks want to dump commuting, how would that work?

just questions to figure all this stuff out!

Take a look at what Delta has done. I think, in fact I know that once the SLI is completed, there will be a "flush bid" posted where every freeze(save any equipment fences that might be in effect) will be lifted and everyone has the opportunity to move into any base/equipment he/she can hold. The company will have about a year to train the bid and I think it can be done. I see, however a 737 base in DEN and a small Airbus base in IAH or EWR and a 737 base in LAX so training might not be required for those looking to move into a new base. Time will tell.

 

[SuperFLUF]

Here's a question, not flame bait, a lot of us are in new territory.

Once the new sli is complete an seniority distributed, can there or is there going to be a major re-bid so pilots can hold their respective equipment based on seniority? Not being pro-mamgement, but that would cost a butt-load of money and time. Any ideas how that would work? Scenario: DEN, lots of co commuters there, but it becomes a bus domicle only and folks want to dump commuting, how would that work?

just questions to figure all this stuff out!

The Transition agreement section 5B states "no flush and no bump" after SLI. (it is good to actually read these things) :erm:

5-B. Acceptance of Integrated Seniority List.

Subject only to the conditions stated below, the Parties will
accept the results of the Seniority List Integration
and incorporate them in the Joint Collective
Bargaining Agreement.

(i) The Integrated Seniority List shall have only
prospective effect. Specifically, and without
limiting the generality of the foregoing, the
following conditions shall apply:

a. There shall be no ““system flush”” whereby a
Pilot may displace another Pilot from the latter’’s
position as a result of the implementation of the
Integrated Seniority List or the implementation or
expiration of any condition or restriction; and

b. Pilots on furlough status at the time the
Integrated Seniority List is implemented may not
bump or displace pilots in active status at that
time; and c. Pilots who, at the time of implementation of
an integrated seniority list, are in the process of
completing or who have completed qualification
training for a new position (e.g., B-777 Captain
or A-319 First Officer) may be assigned to the
position for which they are being or have been
trained, regardless of their relative standing on the
Integrated Seniority List.

(ii) There shall be no requirement or obligation to
compensate Pilots for work not actually performed
or positions not actually held during the period for
which compensation is sought, as a result of the
Integrated Seniority List and its implementation.
(iii) The Integrated Seniority List shall not contain
conditions or restrictions that substantially
increase the costs associated with training above
those normally associated with the merger of two
airlines.

 

[bluefin]

I couldn't open the file that was sent to me.

 

[DontFeedTheBear]

The bid results are out on CCS. CONGRATS to all the CAL furloughs, welcome back!!!! It's about time, and hopefully we can welcome some UAL furloughs that will likely be offered a position!

Let's get a kick @ss JCBA!!!!

Yogi

 

[COpilot]

Glad to see fellow crew members back, I'm off to school for the left seat of the B75/76.

 

[100/hour/5y]

Junior Capt... Has been on deck for 5 1/2 years!

 

[UALRATT]

Bear, is the information of the "too sensitive" type to be posted on FI?

 

[DontFeedTheBear]

Bear, is the information of the "too sensitive" type to be posted on FI?

What info are you referring to?

Yogi

 

[lemtjones]

I think he was wondering:

Seniority of junior man seat and position?

Any unfilled vacancies?

Thanks in advance if anyone can post.

 

[UALRATT]

What info are you referring to?

Yogi

"The bid results are out on CCS"

BTW, what is CCS?

 

[Bigoober]

CCS is the antiquated, pre-Windows looking, "communication" system CAL uses to show everything from schedules to bulletins to bid results.

It sucks trying to much on the program.

I don't know about the ability to post the thing. Even on the CAL forum, the moderator asked the VP of Flight Ops if they could be posted on that forum.

 

[Jet Wash]

Take a look at what Delta has done. I think, in fact I know that once the SLI is completed, there will be a "flush bid" posted where every freeze(save any equipment fences that might be in effect) will be lifted and everyone has the opportunity to move into any base/equipment he/she can hold. The company will have about a year to train the bid and I think it can be done. I see, however a 737 base in DEN and a small Airbus base in IAH or EWR and a 737 base in LAX so training might not be required for those looking to move into a new base. Time will tell.

Delta did not do this.