CAL Snapshot

["TheBigPicture"]

It's out

 

[bluefin]

Snapshot of what? new company plans or a psuedo seniority list that hasn't been negotiated yet, cause both sides have said it will not be discussed until jcba was approved? or the snapshot of Cals list sent to Ual?

 

[Skychief]

the system bid snapshot...not seniority list

 

[bizicmo]

So what is the junior stuff? What will the recalls see?

 

[Mike Ditka]

From most junior to senior for FO:

GUM 737
IAH 737
EWR 756 (about same sen as CLE 737)
CLE 737
EWR 737
EWR 777
IAH 787 (about same sen as IAH 777)
IAH 777

-Just a guess, but I think a lot of recalls will see EWR 756, then IAH 737, they try to only send people to GUM who want to go and in my experience they don't typically have to force ppl out there

 

[bizicmo]

thank you

 

[densoo]

Wow. Junior guy on the 787 is a July 2005 hire. Nice.

Furloughs awarded EWR 757/767 and 737 in all four bases.

Junior CA Dec 98 hire. Will make SLI interesting with CAL having a 98 CA and UAL having furloughs back to 99.

None of it final, of course.

 

[bizicmo]

Wow. Junior guy on the 787 is a July 2005 hire. Nice.

welcome to lagos.

 

[Flyarcticcat]

But by the time you are flying a combined list you will be having retirements between 500-1000 a year. Lots of movement.

 

[Jetjockey]

But by the time you are flying a combined list you will be having retirements between 500-1000 a year. Lots of movement.

Agreed, and that is one smoking hot avatar pic!

 

[mamba20]

But by the time you are flying a combined list you will be having retirements between 500-1000 a year. Lots of movement.

Who cares, your avatar rocks!!!

 

[IAHERJ]

welcome to lagos.

Pool party.....

More like welcome to having your trips bought for training and doing EWR turns out of IAH at junior man pay while getting paid for the Lagos or Aukland trip... Sign me up.....or sign the guys ahead of me in IAH who get all those sweet 767-400 trips to the Pacific up.....

 

[pianoman]

Would love to fly 756 but the pay and schedules suck compared to the 737.

Might be better in the next contract, but if I wait til then might not be able to hold it.

Oh, yes, our awesome contract means I take a pay HIT to go to training for a couple months.

Gotta love it.

 

[Flyer1015]

. Will make SLI interesting with CAL having a 98 CA and UAL having furloughs back to 99.

Didn't go too bad for US AIr/AWA, so I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

 

[jonjuan]

Would love to fly 756 but the pay and schedules suck compared to the 737.

Why would the 756 be more desirable?

 

[bizicmo]

Pool party.....

More like welcome to having your trips bought for training and doing EWR turns out of IAH at junior man pay while getting paid for the Lagos or Aukland trip... Sign me up.....or sign the guys ahead of me in IAH who get all those sweet 767-400 trips to the Pacific up.....

I thought that didn't happen anymore due to pbs preloading all the training.

 

[Ex737Driver]

Trips still ocasionaly get bought after PBS is awarded but nothing to the extent that they were bought before POS C02.

 

[Patriot328]

Why would the 756 be more desirable?

If he's talking about EWR, just about every trip on the 756 is commutable (1700-2100 shows and 1100-1500 finishes). Problem is some of the short Euro flying is not productive (13.5hr 3days), so you're looking at 12 days off if you're holding only those. If you live local or close enough that commuting home between trips is possible, it's not a bad BES to be in.

That, and the vast, vast majority of the flying is one leg a day (or one leg every other day if you're doing Euro flying). So your "Newark Experience" is limited to either just having to leave the place on day one or just having only one flight back on day three.

 

[ForgedBlade]

Commuting is about the only reason to be on the 756 in Newark. The schedules suck (less days off & pretty much all back-side of the clock flying), the trips are not very productive, and then there is the lack of international override and per-diem. You can make just as much $$$ on the 737 and have more days off, but if you don't live in your base, it blows.

 

[mamba20]

Not to mention the 757 is all about fatigue. It takes days to recover from 1 European trip.