CAL Pilot Openers...

[SFR]

I like the idea of a pay raise, but if it is really going to cost $500 million where will the money come from?

CAL did not make $500 million profit for 2009. Would that put us more negative?

 

[Ex737Driver]

Look under the rock you need to burry your head under.

 

[anewunion]

I like the idea of a pay raise, but if it is really going to cost $500 million where will the money come from?

CAL did not make $500 million profit for 2009. Would that put us more negative?

Please stay far away from the negotiations...

P.S. CAL can find 500 Million a year by changing the lav water with a cheaper vendor..

 

[Glacialfury1906]

Don't care where it comes from.... Doesn't matter. LK's got that under his pillow...

 

[rumorhasit]

Don't care where it comes from.... Doesn't matter. LK's got that under his pillow...

Nice avatar... It make me feel a lil funny like when I used to climb the rope in gym class!!!!!

 

[jumppilot]

I like the idea of a pay raise, but if it is really going to cost $500 million where will the money come from?

CAL did not make $500 million profit for 2009. Would that put us more negative?

As a FO I'm sure you do a lot of walk arounds. Ever seen ground equipment that looks like it's 10 years old? Ever seen a dirty airplane? Ever seen an airplane that needs a paint job? Compare this to Airways 737s that look like they just went through re-entry.

The money is there, it's just being put into improvements for the operation. Once our contracts (FAs, mx and pilots) are signed, I bet we start making money again.

 

[SFR]

As a FO I'm sure you do a lot of walk arounds. Ever seen ground equipment that looks like it's 10 years old? Ever seen a dirty airplane? Ever seen an airplane that needs a paint job? Compare this to Airways 737s that look like they just went through re-entry.

The money is there, it's just being put into improvements for the operation. Once our contracts (FAs, mx and pilots) are signed, I bet we start making money again.

Yeah, but our equipment needs those repairs. Where is the money? Nobody answers my question.

 

[SFR]

As a FO I'm sure you do a lot of walk arounds. Ever seen ground equipment that looks like it's 10 years old? Ever seen a dirty airplane? Ever seen an airplane that needs a paint job? Compare this to Airways 737s that look like they just went through re-entry.

The money is there, it's just being put into improvements for the operation. Once our contracts (FAs, mx and pilots) are signed, I bet we start making money again.

I bet that is what UAL pilots thought when they signed their contract in 2000. I would also bet that is what DAL pilots thought when they signed in May 2001.

Look at UAL now.... DAL took a while to recover, and maybe still hasn't 100% yet.


Eastern.....they are still thinking that.



I am not against a pay raise, I just want to know where the union think the money is hiding. I would really like to know that because I would like to report CAL to the SEC if that is the case.

 

[DontFeedTheBear]

Yeah, but our equipment needs those repairs. Where is the money? Nobody answers my question.

If you had any education whatsoever, you would understand the concept of 'creative accounting'. For example, if an aircraft is due for a C-check in January, why not pull it in on Dec 30 and use the millions in cost to offset profits for the previous year. There are hundreds of write-offs, special charges, deferred revenue and other accounting loopholes that can be used, especially during employee contract negotiations. Where did CAL find the $$$ to buy the LHR slots? How are the taking new deliveries of aircraft? How are they making a 1 billion dollars of improvements to IAH terminals? Come on and stop with the flamebait, you can't actually be that stupid, or maybe just a company sympathizer...

Yogi

 

[jumppilot]

If you had any education whatsoever, you would understand the concept of 'creative accounting'. For example, if an aircraft is due for a C-check in January, why not pull it in on Dec 30 and use the millions in cost to offset profits for the previous year. There are hundreds of write-offs, special charges, deferred revenue and other accounting loopholes that can be used, especially during employee contract negotiations. Where did CAL find the $$$ to buy the LHR slots? How are the taking new deliveries of aircraft? How are they making a 1 billion dollars of improvements to IAH terminals? Come on and stop with the flamebait, you can't actually be that stupid, or maybe just a company sympathizer...

Yogi

And our total cash-on-hand is increasing as well.

 

[rtseatrich]

It will come from the $12.4 Billion dollar per year revenue stream.

They took at least $213 million per year in concessions from the Pilot group begining 2005.

Asking for only a $500 million per year increase in total pilot payroll is more than reasonable IMHO.

 

[SFR]

If you had any education whatsoever, you would understand the concept of 'creative accounting'. For example, if an aircraft is due for a C-check in January, why not pull it in on Dec 30 and use the millions in cost to offset profits for the previous year. There are hundreds of write-offs, special charges, deferred revenue and other accounting loopholes that can be used, especially during employee contract negotiations. Where did CAL find the $$$ to buy the LHR slots? How are the taking new deliveries of aircraft? How are they making a 1 billion dollars of improvements to IAH terminals? Come on and stop with the flamebait, you can't actually be that stupid, or maybe just a company sympathizer...

Yogi

So instead of getting the London slots or doing the C check they should give the pilots a raise? Remind me to never go into business with you, you would run it into the ground.

The airplane needs a C check, it does not matter which year you debit the expense. It would just be less expense for the next year.

The London slots generate money, that simple. We need as many assets that put money into the bottom line right now.

We also need terminal improvements, it is called reinvesting the money.

If you can't see how that works you just need to stick to flying the line and pushing those buttons on the panel and collect your check when it comes in. I hope for your sake that you never lose your flying job because it appears that you don't know how to make money elsewhere (or in the rest of the real world).

BTW, I will take the payraise if we get it.

 

[100/hour/5y]

BTW, I will take the payraise if we get it.

You would suck your wife cok if she had one!

 

[DontFeedTheBear]

So instead of getting the London slots or doing the C check they should give the pilots a raise? Remind me to never go into business with you, you would run it into the ground.

The airplane needs a C check, it does not matter which year you debit the expense. It would just be less expense for the next year.

The London slots generate money, that simple. We need as many assets that put money into the bottom line right now.

We also need terminal improvements, it is called reinvesting the money.

If you can't see how that works you just need to stick to flying the line and pushing those buttons on the panel and collect your check when it comes in. I hope for your sake that you never lose your flying job because it appears that you don't know how to make money elsewhere (or in the rest of the real world).

BTW, I will take the payraise if we get it.

So you are that stupid, wow, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt...

Those expenses will allow for more profits in the future, AFTER the labor contracts are settled. It's all about juggling money. You can make the books look as dismal as you want to, but someday you will pay the piper. So tell me why the cash on hand is increasing at CAL, as they show dismal financial pictures???

You will never get it, give it up!

Yogi

 

[Paul R. Smith]

You guys better be nice to Sean. He is gonna be your chief pilot in nothing flat.