CAL cancelling CHQ flying

[BoilerUP]

Is this why there are rumors of ERJs going there?

Anything short of an XR on some of those routes won't help...

 

[atrdriver]

It is a start up operation. Yes the job is the same but this is a new A/C for Chq and CAL. We don't have feed problems with DAL but we did have a problem calling in-range, on-times with DAL until you guys "grew up"

The only "Funny" thing about anything is that you guys continue to work without a contract or being combined with your parent company SKW.

Personally I never blocked a single one of your calls to ops, at least on purpose. As far as the ASA pilots working "without a contract", maybe you need to read up on the RLA. I am no longer at ASA, thankfully, but I have more respect for that group of pilots than any other group of people that I have ever known.

And no matter who you are flying for, all you are doing is providing seats. It doesn't matter what is painted on the plane, in fact that is why you guys have some that are "generic". It may be a start up for CAL, but saying that it is a true startup is just not accurate.

 

[Popeye0537]

Ok, done my reading up on the RLA. Need some clarification, this thing reads way to long. This is what I found

(i) Work stoppages by employees subsequent to carrier offer selected; eligibility of employees for benefits
If the emergency board selects the final offer submitted by the carrier and, after the expiration of the 60-day period described in subsection (h) of this section, the employees of such carrier engage in any work stoppage arising out of the dispute, such employees shall not be eligible during the period of such work stoppage for benefits under the Railroad Unemployment Insurance Act [45 U.S.C. 351 et seq.].
(i) Work stoppages by employees subsequent to employees offer selected; eligibility of employer for benefits
If the emergency board selects the final offer submitted by the employees and, after the expiration of the 60-day period described in subsection (h) of this section, the carrier refuses to accept the final offer submitted by the employees and the employees of such carrier engage in any work stoppage arising out of the dispute, the carrier shall not participate in any benefits of any agreement between carriers which is designed to provide benefits to such carriers during a work stoppage.


I didn't go to law school so I need help understanding all the definitions in the RLA and "why" you must work without a contract.

 

[Tarzan]

I didn't go to law school so I need help understanding all the definitions in the RLA and "why" you must work without a contract.

I think I see where you are coming up short on reasoning. Under the RLA, transportation critical contracts never expire, they only become amendable. Hence, there has to be a release from the NMB to a 30 day cooling off period followed by the actual strike should it go that far.

 

[Popeye0537]

Ok, but how long can the negotiations go on before a release of the contract? ASA has been in said negotiations for years with no amendable agreement. It just seems crazy not to be able to strike after a stalemate for a said given timetable. If you don't call it a strike would a orgnaized "blue flu" be against the law.

 

[Tarzan]

Ok, but how long can the negotiations go on before a release of the contract? ASA has been in said negotiations for years with no amendable agreement. It just seems crazy not to be able to strike after a stalemate for a said given timetable. If you don't call it a strike would a orgnaized "blue flu" be against the law.

Probably something that needs to be written into a contract. Although, that could bite the union in the a$$ later on.

 

[flyer172r]

Ok, but how long can the negotiations go on before a release of the contract? ASA has been in said negotiations for years with no amendable agreement. It just seems crazy not to be able to strike after a stalemate for a said given timetable. If you don't call it a strike would a orgnaized "blue flu" be against the law.

Yes, it would be against the law. You have to maintain the status quo during negotiations, otherwise it's an illegal job action. In order to get released to a cooling off period, the mediator has to declare an impasse in negotiations. Getting the mediator to make that declaration is the hard part. Sucks, doesn't it?

 

[atrdriver]

Ok, but how long can the negotiations go on before a release of the contract? ASA has been in said negotiations for years with no amendable agreement. It just seems crazy not to be able to strike after a stalemate for a said given timetable. If you don't call it a strike would a orgnaized "blue flu" be against the law.

The negotiations can go on for as long as the mediator says it can. In ASA's case it has been almost 4 years I believe. And yes, it would be illegal for the pilots to have ANY type of work action, including strike, slowdown, refusing to pick up open time, sickout, etc. Unions get sued, and lose for things like that.

 

[Non Union]

The Jetblue flying we have been doing had less than a week to start up and we have done a pretty good job thus far considering its been out of LGA.

Not bad. You got the state right.

Do your pax and your CA a favor and make sure you check those -9 pages a little more closely.

K? K!

 

[ERJDRVR]

When did this bash become about ASA? Get lost you clowns. This our thread to get beaten up on.

 

[ToiletDuck]

Not bad. You got the state right.

Do your pax and your CA a favor and make sure you check those -9 pages a little more closely.

K? K!

Looks like someone is going well out of their way to be a dick... The question is why? Give the guy a break and by the way if you just say "K" you're queer and yes it's perfectly ok to be homophobic it's only natural.

 

[Superpilot92]

Not bad. You got the state right.

Do your pax and your CA a favor and make sure you check those -9 pages a little more closely.

K? K!

Well Considering i have never been to LGA or JFK i think i am allowed to make the mistake!! I really do appreciate you worrying about a good old Texas boy like myself. i appreciate you being the Flamer that you are, It really shows!

I agree Duck i think its only natural to think Non union is a homo! LOL

 

[BigLebowski]

CAL is not cancelling the contract with CHQ. It was a 5 year award, they're not going to go back on it. Don't kid yourself, CHQ is fully capable of providing just as good a service as XJet. Who nows, maybe CHQ will do good enough and mainline will award the rest of XJet's flying to them.

 

[Alchemy]

CHQ is fully capable of providing just as good a service as XJet.

Nah, probably not. But since when do legacy carriers care about good service nowadays? They don't.

 

[ToiletDuck]

Nah, probably not. But since when do legacy carriers care about good service nowadays? They don't.

I did recently find out they stopped giving sandwiches. I was pissed. I liked that nitrogen taste in them.

 

[Superpilot92]

CAL is not cancelling the contract with CHQ. It was a 5 year award, they're not going to go back on it. Don't kid yourself, CHQ is fully capable of providing just as good a service as XJet. Who nows, maybe CHQ will do good enough and mainline will award the rest of XJet's flying to them.

Considering this whole think went down because of diversification, i bet that doesnt happen. just a guess!!:bomb:

 

[jeroom]

Considering this whole think went down because of diversification, i bet that doesnt happen. just a guess!!:bomb:

Where is that superwoman of your avatar from???

I need to know where to find her...just to know if she's has planned anything for the next 30 years...

 

[jrcpilot]

From what I can see in ATL with those jet-Brasilias aka EMB145's there seems to be a serious load problem on a high percentage of flights, especially with summer weights. Faults it may have, however the CRJ-200 appears to be a much better aircraft all round, with reliability and maintenance as a big plus. Not to be overly critical, but the cockpit in that EMB thing is a total mess compared with the CRJ, too much stuff to look at! Even with full FMS/RNAV and ACARS capabilities fitted, the CRJ cockpit looks empty compared to the E145. What's wrong with this picture....comments anyone?

Maybe EMB scores better with their E170's and 190's.

Hats off to the 145/135 guys learning to decipher all those little boxes on their screens, and information popping up all over the dang place. Not a very user friendly design, but I guess you gotta work with what you get!

Money talks with the majors, no matter what when it comes to "connection" contracts, and we all keep sliding further into the abyss. When will they ever learn to invest in good equipment, support infrastructure, and more importantly their workforce? That is the root problem in the regional camp right now, and there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

Example, what was Delta smokin' when they awarded more aircraft to Freedom recently, even though they were CRJ's? They want a "seamless experience" for passengers between a connection carrier and mainline-not going to happen in this case, never!
Nope, it's more bottoms in seats for as little cost as possible, that's the goal.

Dude your smokin some serious crack!!! You obviously don't know alot about the CRJ200 or the ERJ145 cause your comments are so backwards its not even funny!!! The load problem with CHQ deals with their W/B program not the airplane. Which interestingly enough its the CRJ. As far as MTC you obviously don't know your won companies track record regarding that or you would not make that comment. If your with ASA you have your share of W/B problems too.

 

[ERJFO]

CAL is not cancelling the contract with CHQ. It was a 5 year award, they're not going to go back on it. Don't kid yourself, CHQ is fully capable of providing just as good a service as XJet. Who nows, maybe CHQ will do good enough and mainline will award the rest of XJet's flying to them.

I can't remember the last time XJet weight restricted a flight to 44 causing gate agents to buy tickets off 6 people at $500 each plus hotel and meal vouchers.

 

[The Drizzle]

I can't remember the last time XJet weight restricted a flight to 44 causing gate agents to buy tickets off 6 people at $500 each plus hotel and meal vouchers.

Yes, i'd like to kick our POI and other FSDO members directly in the groin.