C Series for Skywest

[Options_SLAVE]

The C series shouldn't be flying for any regional airline.

Absolutely right. The C110 is a 120,000 lb airplane, the C130 (No offense to Herc guys, that's what they call it) is a 130,000 lb airplane. Seats up to 145 people in a 2-3 main cabin configuration. They are saying 20% more efficient to the "classic" 737 and the DC-9, and the Fokker 100, which I would think it would be BETTER than that, but they also compare it to the 717, which would be impressive.

 

[jehtplane]

Where are we hearing this one?

His 12 pack of beer, the Coor's light is talking to him

 

[McNugget]

Skywest is in talks with Bambardier hoping to be the launch customer for the C Series. Rumor has it that it isn't for any codeshare. Skywest branded flying i guess. Wonder if they are counting on oil prices dropping. The jet is trouted as being 20% more efficient. They might be able to make a go of it in 2013.

They need a better product then the POS they have out now. CRJ 200/700/900. They all suck.

Embraer will have a better plane anyhow. The E170/175 sure kicked Bombardier in the nuts. They need to succeed with the "C" series. Time will tell

 

[ifly4u]

Okay so I clicked on the link. Here is what I found:

The Pratt & Whitney Geared Turbofan engine represents a step-change in commercial engine performance for single-aisle aircraft. The expected benefits will include up to a 12 percent improvement in fuel efficiency and a 30-decibel noise reduction over Stage III requirements. A ground demonstration test is planned in the third quarter 2007 and a flight demonstration test in 2008.

So which is it?

 

[Jetjockey]

I don't care what this thread is about, these are some fine avatars in this thread!

jehtplane wins!

 

[TrevorW]

Embraer will have a better plane anyhow. The E170/175 sure kicked Bombardier in the nuts. They need to succeed with the "C" series. Time will tell[/quote]

What is the typical cruise speed and fuel burn in the E175? I've heard the Crj-700 is better but haven't actually seen the numbers to decide for myself. From a passenger stand point its no question.

 

[McNugget]

Mach .78 normal cruise. Fuel burn ??? I'll have to ask.

 

[McNugget]

I don't care what this thread is about, these are some fine avatars in this thread!

jehtplane wins!

Negative,

EMB170Pilot's avatar wins hands down

 

[Options_SLAVE]

I was told the CRJ-700 out-performs the E-170 in just about every category. I can't back it up, don't have the facts on the E-170. Would love to see the comparrisons for costs per seat mile, per hour, range, t/o & landing, etc.

 

[McNugget]

I was told the CRJ-700 out-performs the E-170 in just about every category. I can't back it up, don't have the facts on the E-170. Would love to see the comparrisons for costs per seat mile, per hour, range, t/o & landing, etc.

They're just about the same, kinda like Trans States and GoJet. :bomb:

 

[DoinTime]

Okay so I clicked on the link. Here is what I found:

The Pratt & Whitney Geared Turbofan engine represents a step-change in commercial engine performance for single-aisle aircraft. The expected benefits will include up to a 12 percent improvement in fuel efficiency and a 30-decibel noise reduction over Stage III requirements. A ground demonstration test is planned in the third quarter 2007 and a flight demonstration test in 2008.

So which is it?

That quote relates only to the performance of the engine. Airframe improvements will likely yield further improvements. If the comparisons are to Boeing 737-500, and 717-200's there is a lot efficiency to gained through a lighter weight airframe and improved aerodynamics. The days of making airframes to last 40 years are gone.

 

[CX880]

They're just about the same, kinda like Trans States and GoJet. :bomb:

TSA went with the CRJ7 instead of the E 170, that about covers which type is cheaper to operate.

 

[B727FA]

Where are we hearing this one?

In his mind...

 

[zawillif]

The C-Series Jet has already been launched with a Lufthansa order. The jet comes in 110 seat and 130 seat configurations. It is not scheduled to be certified until 2013ish. The C-110 and C-130 will be perfect replacements for the DC-9.

A more likely rumor would be interest in the MRJ, the Mitsubishi Regional Jet. That plane comes in a 70 seat and 90 seat configuration, with a smaller (and the first) version of Pratt's GTF engine. The MRJ will have increased usage of composites, but not a full barrel fuselage. It is scheduled to be certified in 2011ish and will have 20% gains in fuel burn compared with today's RJs.

 

[FlyingToIST]

Bombardier already has a launch customer for the airplane..

 

[sstearns2]

Or course skywest is getting the C-series. We're going to start the HNL United Express interisland base with CRJ-700s and transition to the C-series. You heard it here first!

Chip is also going to build a nice crew condo complex over on the north shore. It's going to be sweet and junior.

It's in the bag....

Scott

 

[homerjdispatch]

Bombardier already has a launch customer for the airplane..

Havent I read that about 6 times already in this thread?

 

[WalterSobchak]

Havent I read that about 6 times already in this thread?

I heard Lufthansa was the launch customer for the C-Series...

 

[SSDD]

Lufthansa? Seriously? Maybe you should double check your sources. Get back to us when you know for sure

 

[XPOO]

I read in some thread that Lufthansa was the launch carrier. Can't remember which thread it was though. Of course, the thread was on FI.com, so take it at face value.