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SWAdude said:
So was Pan Am 35 years ago.
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You're quite right about the above statement, but I'm wondering if Pan Am Sh!t on thousands of qualified applicants during the hiring process, while hiring some of the most incompetent dou che bags in aviation because of their skin color or the size of the VA J J. How many PFO's does united have?
 
GuppyWN said:
So was it United turning their backs on US Airways or the other way around?
Gup
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Think about it: first it was to be United and Continental. What happened? Continental pulled out. Then it was to be United and USAir. Who has been stating since emergence from bankruptcy that it's his intent to merge? Tilton has no business plan other than to merge. The official rumor is that the deal fell apart mostly over the ego/power struggle over who'd run the combined company. I'm no fan of Parker but one can easily see at least he intends to run an airline.
 
AlbieF15 said:
Sad, really...it was the Taj Mahal of airline jobs 10 years gao...
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I remember being at a job fair back about 12 years ago. The night before the job fair there was a little shin dig for all the airline reps and you should have seen the line to kiss Kru's butt....

.....you better believe I would have been standing in it if I thought I could have gotten a job there. That and the fact that I wasn't supposed to be there anyway.

anyway, you're right, it is sad what has happened to UAL and everyone else at this point. Where is ANDY to tell me not to worry because oil will come crashing down? I need some positive vibes.
 
None the less it sucks. I'm no UAL fan, never have been but at the end of the day it's dad's, husbands and friends of mine driving those jets counting on those paychecks.

Good luck you guys. I hope this is only rumor.

Gup
 
GuppyWN said:
None the less it sucks. I'm no UAL fan, never have been but at the end of the day it's dad's, husbands and friends of mine driving those jets counting on those paychecks.

Good luck you guys. I hope this is only rumor.

Gup
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Gup....

You are absolutely right about that and believe me when I tell you that I understand. Been furloughed enough times that I don't wish it on my worst enemy. Good luck to you United folks.... he l l ... good luck to us all in this industry.....
 
Just a question for the UAL guys and gals. Is there already UAL people on the street? What is the most junior DOH on the property? Sorta worried about some friends there.
 
There's still no official news about this. Just a rumor on some website from a supposed "source." Could still be complete BS.
 
Yeah people are already hitting the street. Know of a new hire that had just finished training, was heading out to SFO and was furloughed. Has 3 kids and 2 mortgages.....
 
johnsonrod said:
Ouch!

Sounds like Airbus crews could be hit first if TED shuts down. I thought I heard the 737-500s were targeted for departure? Unfortunately not too surprising given UAL's inability to find a dance partner and Tilton's lack of leadership.

Good luck to all involved!
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Think. They would reconfigure them to have first class back in them.
 
zasca said:
Yeah people are already hitting the street. Know of a new hire that had just finished training, was heading out to SFO and was furloughed. Has 3 kids and 2 mortgages.....
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Doesn't sound right to me. Friend of mine just finished training and is doing IOE right now. No news of furlough for him yet.
 
zasca said:
Yeah people are already hitting the street. Know of a new hire that had just finished training, was heading out to SFO and was furloughed. Has 3 kids and 2 mortgages.....
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I am curious, since UAL has not furloughed anyone...yet...and no letters have been sent out...HOW DID YOUR FRIEND GET FURLOUGHED?? Please post things that are legit.
 
shagadelic said:
Source is Planebuzz.com....

United Airlines To Park Up to 70 Aircraft, Behead Ted, and Announce Headquarters' Layoffs


Our informed sources tell us this afternoon (hey, I'm on Pacific time) that we should hear more details Tuesday on United's plans to contract.
On the cutting board (and I know this is going to upset Cranky Flier immeasurably) will be Theodore, better known as yet another tried and then discarded airline within an airline adventure. Yes, you all know the adventure as "Ted."
Secondly, we're told that the airline will announce the grounding of at least 70 aircraft.
Layoffs? Did someone say layoffs? (A nod to Coach Jim Mora there...)
Yes. We're hearing at least 1500 folks are going to be on the short end of pink slips at UAUA headquarters.
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Tell us your source????? I see you work for SWA...I am sure they have a inside track to United...not!....maybe to Greyhound! since that is your competition!
 
I may be confused on his status, but anyone who knows J.Q. (ex-PDT) better than I do, can help clarify what happened to him.
 
Wesb737fo said:
Where is ANDY to tell me not to worry because oil will come crashing down? I need some positive vibes.
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You're looking for a ray of sunshine from ME? Maybe you've misinterpreted most of my posts as to where I see things going. I see a deflationary depression in our future. (A depression is defined as a decrease during the contractionary period of greater than 10%). It won't be a 'Grapes of Wrath' event, but it isn't going to be the mild 1 or 2 quarter recession that we've seen over the last 30 years.
Yes, I anticipate oil prices to drop. But that's due to demand destruction. Demand destruction isn't exactly conducive to economic activity.
I've been anticipating being furloughed for quite a while now (I figure my number's up shortly after Christmas), and I expect furloughs to occur at just about every airline.

If I'm the one you're looking for positive vibes from, I'd hate to think of the armageddon scenario that you envision.
 
Soulfly said:
And SWA will replace as many of those seats as humanely possible.

These are not capacity cuts, it is a transfer of flying.

If capacity cuts are whats needed then we are all screwed, sans SWA.
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And to do that they'll need to upsize their capacity quickly. And the fastest way to do so is to buy either Alaska or Air Tran...or both.
 
I didn't start this thread. Somebody wanted his source. This is what I found and coincided to what he posted originally. I never said it was true. Planebuzz also said we were close to purchasing ATA assets, which turned out to be bogus. But Holly Hegeman does seem to have a pretty good grasp of the industry. Ask HER for HER sources. If you don't want rumors, stay away aviation boards, that's all you're gonna find here.

I've got a lot of friends at United and wish all of them the best.
 
Yeah, yeah, contrail, we must all bow down and lick your mighty mastadon, airbus flying dong. And I'm not your son... Maybe the guy got axed, or maybe his IOE got delayed till the fall, or maybe the story is all wrong.
 
Here's some more rumor from her site:

Updates on All Things United Airlines


From one of our readers this morning:
"Here is what I am hearing on the United front:


1. Culling the B737 fleet (94 airplanes) by Fall 2009.

2. Selling off 7 B747s by Fall 2008.

3. 25 percent staff cuts by Fall 2008.

4. Death to TED (quickly but painfully).

5. John Tague becomes the de facto President. (Hopefully after some quick-but-intense "Grooming by Glenn").

6. Massive reorganization - "all the
wrong people are being promoted."

Are you hearing similar rumblings?"​
Yes. And more.

In fact, the Tague comment is especially interesting, as after the US Airways/United deal fell apart, we were told by several folks close to the deal that one of the big reasons was because John Tague wanted to become CEO of United, USTed, or whatever the merged airline would have been called.

So this dovetails with those comments.

We've also had a slew of other comments from readers this morning telling us that the entire United Boeing 737 fleet will be parked. So this seems to coincide with our reader's comments above as well.

So it looks like instead of parking 70 aircraft, the total number of aircraft parked at United Airlines may be over 100.
 
zasca said:
Yeah, yeah, contrail, we must all bow down and lick your mighty mastadon, airbus flying dong. And I'm not your son... Maybe the guy got axed, or maybe his IOE got delayed till the fall, or maybe the story is all wrong.
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Go back to the regional boards.....and read some more checklists.
 

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