boo hoo west children

[WickedPissa]

why was it fair in your minds for west guys to gain 15+ years seniority in some cases over east pilots but the world is about to end because an east new hire will get a paycheck for 2-3 whole months after your mighty 4 year career at AWA is on the street?

 

[Bringupthebird]

I think the issue wasn't a pilot's subjective view of fairness, it was about compliance with the TA and the arbitration.

Go ahead and vent if it makes you feel better, but it doesn't contribute to solving the problems that US pilots are facing.

 

[Soulfly]

why was it fair in your minds for west guys to gain 15+ years seniority in some cases over east pilots but the world is about to end because an east new hire will get a paycheck for 2-3 whole months after your mighty 4 year career at AWA is on the street?

Whatever... I don't know why I even waste my time...

 

[LearLove]

o this should get good......

 

[WickedPissa]

That entire statement is assinine. So a new hire that isn't even off probation should keep collecting a paycheck while a 5 year AWA doesn't. Whatever dude. Your an idiot.

Yes they should. You're just pouting because I implied the west guys pout like elementary school girls.

 

[WickedPissa]

What payscale and work rules would the west guy fly the 190 under? That's why they are on the street first. Two separate airlines still, regardless of some cetificate.

 

[Ocity]

What payscale and work rules would the west guy fly the 190 under? That's why they are on the street first. Two separate airlines still, regardless of some cetificate.

Loser.

 

[Soulfly]

Yes they should. You're just pouting because I implied the west guys pout like elementary school girls.

Why should they? Please explain?

No pouting here. Not sure where you came up with that.

 

[Lampshade]

What payscale and work rules would the west guy fly the 190 under? That's why they are on the street first. Two separate airlines still, regardless of some cetificate.

Umm...the pay scales in the TA that we agreed upon! Have you even read the TA?

 

[waveflyer]

many AAA pilots would not know what to do with themselves if they were not fighting somebody. It's just AWA's turn.. And to management's benefit.

 

[HAL]

why was it fair in your minds for west guys to gain 15+ years seniority in some cases over east pilots but the world is about to end because an east new hire will get a paycheck for 2-3 whole months after your mighty 4 year career at AWA is on the street?

They wouldn't have gained 15+ years of seniority, because they were already doing the same job as the east guys with that precious extra 15 years! Don't you get it??? If you're a junior Airbus Captain you are a junior Airbus Captain, whether you've been with the company for 7 years or 20 years. THAT is what you greedy, self-centered, short-sighted, destructive easties don't get!

HAL

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Well now I thank you, WickedPissa, for being tonights....


Worst
Person
in the
Worldddddd.......

 

[mrebuck]

Here we go again...

 

[pianoman]

I know it been hashed out, but it's so simple. ( I have no dog in this fight)

You were on the street before merger, you'reon the street after.

You were a captain before, you're a captain after.

You keep what you brought to the table.

Whining like a school girl is expecting someone else to give up a captain seat and go to the street so you can have it.

 

[Kugelblitz]

As an outsider looking in, and seeing the travails of the AWA pilot who was working in a reasonably healthy company (all things considered) and then has the rug pulled out from under them by a company that was d.o.a. It doesn't get more disturbing than that given that the typical line pilot has little say in these matters and all one can do is trust the 'wisdom' of the union leadership.

I can assure you that our union at our airline will fight any and all merger suggestions from our management who apparently already saved us from the ravages of the UAL pilots, assuming this is the template for future pilot integrations: The airline with the most pilots wins, career expectations and arbitration hearings be damned.

This situation further reinforces my view of the inherently nihilistic/narcissistic mentality of airline pilots and especially the leaders of our so-called unions. Unity is antithetical to the pilot persona and therefore not really possible. Any appearances of unity are only the serendipitous confluence of multiple nihilistic agendas. (Yeah, I've read Ayn Rand.)

Good luck to all, especially the AWA pilots. Many of the new hires there were TWA furloughees and have been abused enough.