Bill Gates New Jet?

[Snakum]

On another note, Peavy Electronics had at one time ordered a 757, did they ever operate it?

If anyone deserves a corp. config'd 75 ... Hartley does.

He finally had to start making a low-end line of guitars and amps in China and Indonesia to compete, but hell ... even Paul Reed Smith has an Asian line now. But H.P. still makes all his tube amps and higher-end guitars in America, and that's more than almost everyone else can say, especially Fender. Assembling "American Std." Strats and Teles in Cali from all-Mexican parts does not equal 'Made in America'

My hat's off to the guy ... even though the little old ladies in Mississippi never sent the grill cloth for my two hot-rodded Classic 30s.

Minhberg

 

[Spooky 1]

The Big Lie Gets Even Bigger

The funny thing is, we'd probably all get along thick as thieves if were sat down and had a beer. Think it's time to move off of this. I've enjoyed it though.

I bet you have enjoyed it! The fact is that you are a bonified LIAR. Here are the facts;

1) No one at UPS contract training has ever heard of your operation.
2) No one at TBC has ever heard of your operation.
3) You cannot answer any particulars regarding your operation and to make it
worse your story keeps changing.
4) You cannot even comment on my question regarding aux tanks in the Boeing
757. BTW, this is the secret question that defines your story as truth or a
hoax, I see why you would not find it in your interest to even comment.
5) I suspect, as probably others on this board do, that all of you rating shown
on you avitar of ficticious.

Only a fool would want to have a drink much less any contact with you and your ilk. Stay away from serious aviation issues as they have a way of creeping up and killing you.

 

[sydeseet]

Does anyone remember Pilot727 from the old board a few years back?

He was a 500TT wonderboy with a Lear job who was "regional bound" and could give anyone all the advice they needed as long as he could quote it from the AIM, FARs, or a C-172 AFM. He eventually stepped on the wrong toes and was uncovered as some kid from the Washington DC suburbs who played Microsoft Flight Simulator waaaaaaaay too much.

So I ask you, is 757BBJ Capt our old friend from DC?????? Things that make you go hmmm?

For the record I too wondered about the legitimacy of 757BBJ Capt when he first started posting - always with a story short on details and light on distinguishable facts. I also make an effort to keep my posts and information a little on the generic side to avoid an uncomfortable moment at an interview or pilot lounge, but the fact is a spade has been called a spade here and the only way for him to rectify his credentials on this board is to start giving us those details and distinguishable facts. Or change his username to something else (Pilot727 comes to mind) and start all over again. After all, we are in the company of posers every day so the idea is not far fetched.

 

[Lilah]

Here's a little encounter I had with a "poser".....

I was pumping gas at a little airport near the Johnson Space Center. A tenent with a Cessna 150 claims to be an "AsCan" and have a colorful past flying with the CIA and have experience in a wide variety of interesting airplanes (including F-14s). The subject of his King Air experience comes up and a cruise speed of 150 kts gets mentioned. When I say that seems a little slow, even for an A-90, he gets beligerant, and says I can go back to flying "books" while he has more important stuff to do, like train for his upcoming Shuttle flight.

It didn't make sense. A few days later a gentleman walks in, flashes a badge, claims to be from NASA security, and asks if the afore mentioned person has a plane at our airport. I kindly explain it's our policy not to divulge any information about our tenents. He then asks to rephrase his inquiry and asks if I have seen the person in this glossy 8x10 photo he pulls out of a folder. I answer yes, and suggest he wait to talk to the airport manager. The story makes it to the media in a few days, and it seems our hero had posed his way past security in a number of facilities and installations. It seems he talked a good enough story to enough people, but not the person pumping gas into his plane.

Lilah


The Man Who Walked Into NASA...
On May 5, claiming that he was a CIA agent, an astronaut, a pilot, and recipient of a "Medal of Honor", 44 year old Jerry Whittredge arranged for a virtual tour of NASA's Mission Control at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Houston using falsified credentials, and succeeded in downloading top secret information on the Space Shuttle's thrust propulsion system.

Six days later, using his new found information and his false ID, he walked into the Kingsville Naval Air Station in south Texas and, after meeting with the base commander and several senior pilots, was allowed to train on a T-45 aircraft flight simulator.

Whittredge was arrested in his live-in recreational vehicle in Texas on Sunday, May 10, after using his false credentials to try and get clearance to fly an actual T-45 aircraft.

http://www.c4i.org/soceng.html

 

[757BBJ_Capt]

First of all lets get something straight here. I never asked for any advice and we do not have, nor have we in the past had "problems" with our Boeing pilot group. As for the aux tank issue, if you have them, how about sharing for everyone here what the current issues are with that set up?

Spooky, we dropped this and you had to rehash it, so here we go. I will give you 1 opprotunity to retract the above statement. You did infact ask for some advice and you said some other things that you would not want posted here. The date was 3-30-2005. Check the PM I wrote you on that same date in response to your PM that I speak of, and you can apoligize like you said you were going to, as your answer is there about the AUX tanks. Your failure to retract that statement will leave me no choice other than to post the screenshot of your full statement and then to refresh that memory of yours, I'll make sure I fax a copy of it over to your Hanger. As you put it, Maybe that'll be the next move Monday morning. You want this to get nasty? You got it. Tick Tock.

 

[Spooky 1]

Please, go ahead and make my day

Spooky, we dropped this and you had to rehash it, so here we go. I will give you 1 opprotunity to retract the above statement. You did infact ask for some advice and you said some other things that you would not want posted here. The date was 3-30-2005. Check the PM I wrote you on that same date in response to your PM that I speak of, and you can apoligize like you said you were going to, as your answer is there about the AUX tanks. Your failure to retract that statement will leave me no choice other than to post the screenshot of your full statement and then to refresh that memory of yours, I'll make sure I fax a copy of it over to your Hanger. As you put it, Maybe that'll be the next move Monday morning. You want this to get nasty? You got it. Tick Tock.

Please go ahead and post my PM to you. Nothing there that I am ashamed off. Also inspite of your continued BS, you never have addressed the aux tank issue. Please post anything that you have on this subject as well. You continue to say that you have responded, if so please show us all. I will pm you with the fax number for our office so you don't have to waste any time looking it up. BTW the next to pm that I sent after your 3-30-05 pm was to another member of this website asking him if he thought you were a poser. Your a poser, a phonie, and a really big bluffer and BS artist. You have been watching to many Hollywood movies and playing to many computer games. I think by now we all recognize your stchick.

Standing by for your post and don't edit anything

 

[Spooky 1]

Private Message: FW: B757 Recurrent and or initial training
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Originally Posted by 757BBJ_Capt
We do cross qualify. We have 4 airplanes, 3 pilots per plane. Simple enough. So, out of the 12 pilots, EVERYONE flights the Lear60. The 757, GV, and DA50 are the only choices that the pilots have. Of course everyone was excited when the Boeing came on board, so EVERYONE got typed in it. We did that so there would be no anomosity, jealousy, and quite frankly, as a incentive for the other pilots to stick around if they ever wanted to fly it. We assigned the 757s pilots based on 2 things. Who volentered the most the previous year to fly extra, who did things that they were not required to do the previous, and then the final factor was those who worked on the aircraft's aquisition. We gave all the pilots the chance, based on senionity, to work with Boeing, our people, and the completion center before we ever even order the airplane. The guys that blew it off and said let someone else do it are not flying it today because they assumed that they would be just because they had been here the longest. Our newest pilot, myself, and a guy that has been here 6 years got the assignment. The other planes are based on need. If you want to switch an aircraft, you have to find another pilot that is willing to trade with you. If you are an F/O, you must swap with an F/O. We dont care how much they want to change planes, just as long as everyone is happy with the arrangements. As for the pilots wanting thing such as ratings and a better schedule; that way I look at it, that's fine and all, but at the end of the day, it's not about what the pilots want, it about what they need to operate safely and the wants/needs of the company. Who cares that Joe has a better schedule than Bob? If one of them does not like it, they can quit. There is no reason for the company to incur those costs just to make a pilot happy. I assume they are getting paid a good wage, have a decent schedule, and are treated well. With all that said, personally I would try to do all that I can to make them happy, but if the costs do not support whatever benefit the comapny will gain by doing those things, I would not lose a wink of sleep over it. Pilot have these egos (not saying that is the case here) that tell them the have this and that coming to them. I don't see it that way. They are ina good position to have what they have, and if that is not enough, goodbye. I dont say that to be crass, but there has to come a point where you put your foot down and say look, you have it pretty good here, and I am sorry you don't get the good trip or the type rating you want, but we don't have a need to go that route at this time, so I'd like to see you stay, but if us not paying for a type that we don't need you to have right now is going to be a sore spot, please resign. Here, we like for the guys to go to training events, so getting a new type is something we don't mind paying for as long as it can be justified, and with only 3 pilots for each aircraft, it can always be justified.
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Originally Posted by 757BBJ_Capt
HI. We have a contract with UPS. Their level of instruction is top notch. We are very satisfied, though it is quite expensive. Was in class last time with Airforce 2 guys, and we did not know they trained with them as well, so if it's good enough for them it is good enough for us. We have only had the aircraft for 8 months, so a lot of this is still new to me. I hired a guy from AA on a 1 year contract. He was on furlough and had 1000 hours in type, so he has really taken the lead on the aircraft and he might be able to share more insight with you. I am a hands-OFF type of manager, so I just turned him loose with the 75 and he has done all the leg work for the most part. He wants to go back to the airlines, so we are going to lose him sometime in the next year. We made him a full time offer we thought he couldn't refuse, but I guess the airlines have some type of spell over him, so we'll be looking again if you know of anyone. I'll pass along this msg to him and let him know if you have anymore questions to make himself available to you. Good luck, and I hope I have answered your question.


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Originally Posted by Spooky 1
If you don't mind me asking, where do your B757 crews do there recurrent training and where ever that might be are you pleased with the product? we are reviewing our options now and any insight to another operatprs experience would be helpful.

Spooky 1




Here is a second post. Was wondering if your operation cross qualifies the Boeing guys onto the corporate aircraft assumming that you are operating something else beside just the Boeing. That is a BIG issue in our hangar as both sides want to cross train but the CP has problems with this. Most of it is financial and he has a point that can be hard to overcome. The Boeing schedules are just way better than the GV or GEX and those guys want some of that scheduling. The Boeing guys want some of the corporate flying so they can enahnce their ratings if something were to happen and they found them on themselves on the street. All of us fly at least one other aircraft so the dual qual is not totally eliminated. I fly the Boeing and the Twin Otter on floats and if I had a say in it, I would be happy just flying the Otter. Way to much fun for an old fart like myself.

Thanks for sharing the info,


There is the whole message for anyone to look at and comment. Note the work with Boeing comment from this guy. No one at TBC has ever heard of any other US corporate operators with the exception of Vulcan and Ukypa (sp). Can you believe this "I hired a guy". More BSSSSSSSS

 

[501261]

Nice job Spooky! I thought he might have been a Poser, but I don't know anything about the 75, to refute his BS. Now I know for sure he's a Poser.

 

[400A]

He knew so much about radars, that he had to take the shot at the Citations radar. If so, he would know that many citations, and even my measly old 400A have all the features he used to throw stones at the citation pilot. In his infinite wisdom felt that we and his stupid co-pilot would not understand.

 

[Snakum]

Wouldn't the blue and white 757-200 that Pace operates for the ball team and charter clients count as a corporate 75?

Though I don't know how many seats it's config'd for, it does have those windowless spaces in the fuselage that I associated with a corp config'd airliner. Saw it as GSO this weekend, and used to see it almost every week at INT back in the early 2000s.

Minhberg the Unrated FO Extrordinaire

 

[semperfido]

spooky...with all due respect...you are way out on a limb and no safety net...fido

 

[Spooky 1]

Wouldn't the blue and white 757-200 that Pace operates for the ball team and charter clients count as a corporate 75?

Though I don't know how many seats it's config'd for, it does have those windowless spaces in the fuselage that I associated with a corp config'd airliner. Saw it as GSO this weekend, and used to see it almost every week at INT back in the early 2000s.

Minhberg the Unrated FO Extrordinaire

I am certainly not familiar with all of the Pace aircraft but I think it's fair to say that if it is on a Part 121 certificate, that it is not a corporate aircraft. The Dallas Mav's certificate ride on the Pace certificate and there airplane is very nice inside, not a corporate feel as much a very nice airliner (read sports team chariot). At any rate the typical Boeing corporate configuration is much more like a head of state aircraft than anything in the airline world. Having said that I was on one of the 89th's aircraft awhile back and while it is nice, and over the top with technology, it was not what any GV/GIV type of operator would consider luxurious.

 

[Spooky 1]

spooky...with all due respect...you are way out on a limb and no safety net...fido

Not sure where you are coming from be it concern for my welfare, or the thought that maybe I am wrong about this guy. There are a host of things that I have not devulged about B757BBJ Capt. and at the moment there is no reason to go further as I think the point has been made. BTW, his comment in his PM to me where he implies that he attended recurrent along with the 89th crew is over the top. Other than the fact that no one knows anything about this operation at UPS, the real zinger is the thought that anyone other than a bonafied 89th crewmember would be in attendance during one of their recurrent training session. Pilots doing recurrent at Alteon/Boeing do not mix with other operators during recurrent as one might see at either FSI or Simuflite as each operators manuals are custom designed for that particular operator. Systems tend to be pretty much the same but it is suprising just how many varitions to something like an electrical system can show up in the same model aircraft. I don't know, but I wonder if the BBJ crews are mixed during recurrent? I would expect not.

Believe me please. This fellow is not a B757 corporate Captain. Probably not a B757 Capt at all based upon some of his comments. Also sounds like he is getting pretty frustrated with his "tick-tock" comments. Corporate security has been alerted.

 

[fokkerjet]

Pilots doing recurrent at Alteon/Boeing do not mix with other operators during recurrent as one might see at either FSI or Simuflite as each operators manuals are custom designed for that particular operator. Systems tend to be pretty much the same but it is suprising just how many varitions to something like an electrical system can show up in the same model aircraft. I don't know, but I wonder if the BBJ crews are mixed during recurrent? I would expect not.

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Not completely true. We train at Alteon and have had other operators attend class with us, just like you would expect at FlightSafety/ Simuflite, but they were not 121 types; 91 only. Alteon is more in the business of "renting" out their simulators verses conducting classes led by Alteon instructors. For our aircraft, they have one full time program manager / instructor, and they have one part-time guy who comes in during the winter season who is also an Airbus instructor.

 

[Spooky 1]

Pilots doing recurrent at Alteon/Boeing do not mix with other operators during recurrent as one might see at either FSI or Simuflite as each operators manuals are custom designed for that particular operator. Systems tend to be pretty much the same but it is suprising just how many varitions to something like an electrical system can show up in the same model aircraft. I don't know, but I wonder if the BBJ crews are mixed during recurrent? I would expect not.

QUOTE]

Not completely true. We train at Alteon and have had other operators attend class with us, just like you would expect at FlightSafety/ Simuflite, but they were not 121 types; 91 only. Alteon is more in the business of "renting" out their simulators verses conducting classes led by Alteon instructors. For our aircraft, they have one full time program manager / instructor, and they have one part-time guy who comes in during the winter season who is also an Airbus instructor.

What type of aircraft are you training on? As I had indicated before I suspect that BBJ pilots may do the group thing but I know that the B757 types are not doing that simply because we are using different manuals and our aircraft are pretty much one off as far as systems configurations. You would believe a couple of unusual system configurations that we have in our aircraft. My original point was that the 89th does not share a classroom with anyone. There is a current B757, 89th pilot in this forum but I would not want to identify him and put him in the spotlight so to speak. He does train at UPS and that about all I can say. They used to train at Alteon and I think there is still training done at Alteon/Boeing Seattle for those who fly the "black" 757's that have been mentioned from time to time in this forum. Are you using Alteon in MIA or someplace else? As you probably know the Alteon facility in Seattle has reverted back to a "Boeing" facility. Very confusing sometimes to keep track of who is on 1st.