Big meeting: Skywest, ASA/XJet, Alpa, SAPA

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

I guess it is real. I just got the email. ONE LIST!

 

[drinksonme]

ASA/XJT and SKYW will not be on one list until the shareholders and BOD agree that is what is best for the company. To them, pilots are the like the 16 year old who wants a new car. They will make you believe it COULD, COULD, happen, but most likely it will not happen for years.

At the end of the day, the shareholders drive the BOD at SKYW INC. The BOD still puts on a good show to the shareholders about how two airlines is best for INC and thus the shareholders. Eventually, enough shareholders are going to ask why INC has not brought everything (2 OCC's, 2 HR Departments, 3, yes 3, training departments, a mulititude of insurance and benefits plans, etc..) under one roof to save cost, or as the execs like to say, create synergies. When Jerry and the rest of BOD can't come up with a good reason anymore, SKYW and ASA/XJT will merge into one. Hell, even members of the BOD are currently questioning why INC has 2 airlines. (Source for that is the pilot, "a friend", who flies that board member around privately.) When only one airline, with one pilot, flight attendant, mechanic, dispatcher, scheduling, management, group exists, it will be the shareholders that make it so....not ALPA and SAPA

And this below is funny

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Relax everybody. The groups were getting together to film their own "This Is My ExpressJet" film series. The deadline is tomorrow.

 

[bigshooter107]

Relax everybody. The groups were getting together to film their own "This Is My ExpressJet" film series. The deadline is tomorrow.

Just spit my drink out in the gate area, that is the best one I have heard in a while.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

ASA/XJT and SKYW will not be on one list until the shareholders and BOD agree that is what is best for the company. To them, pilots are the like the 16 year old who wants a new car. They will make you believe it COULD, COULD, happen, but most likely it will not happen for years.

At the end of the day, the shareholders drive the BOD at SKYW INC. The BOD still puts on a good show to the shareholders about how two airlines is best for INC and thus the shareholders. Eventually, enough shareholders are going to ask why INC has not brought everything (2 OCC's, 2 HR Departments, 3, yes 3, training departments, a mulititude of insurance and benefits plans, etc..) under one roof to save cost, or as the execs like to say, create synergies. When Jerry and the rest of BOD can't come up with a good reason anymore, SKYW and ASA/XJT will merge into one. Hell, even members of the BOD are currently questioning why INC has 2 airlines. (Source for that is the pilot, "a friend", who flies that board member around privately.) When only one airline, with one pilot, flight attendant, mechanic, dispatcher, scheduling, management, group exists, it will be the shareholders that make it so....not ALPA and SAPA

And this below is funny

I'm sure they've got a whole drawer full of excuses for the stock price not rebounding. From a shareholder's perspective, it absolutely makes sense to consolidate facilities, resources, and labor. However, a shareholder doesn't give a hoot about one list.

 

[drinksonme]

^^^^^my point exactly. One list would only be a byproduct of putting both airlines into one, not the driving force....neither are ALPA or SAPA. I mean come on, every pilot knows ALPA is a joke. So is SAPA....you think the execs of companies do not. Placating the union leaders with words of wonder and that is all that is needed to make the union stay down. If the union gets ballsy.....bankruptcy and cut the balls off.....really not that hard to break and control a union

 

[amcnd]

How much savings a year would "one" airline yeld... 20 mill? Just a guess... But if or magins keep shrinking... They may have too....

 

[Nevets]

^^^^^my point exactly. One list would only be a byproduct of putting both airlines into one, not the driving force....neither are ALPA or SAPA. I mean come on, every pilot knows ALPA is a joke. So is SAPA....you think the execs of companies do not. Placating the union leaders with words of wonder and that is all that is needed to make the union stay down. If the union gets ballsy.....bankruptcy and cut the balls off.....really not that hard to break and control a union

Bankruptcy? That'll be good for the stock price and thus the shareholders. Bankruptcy is also a decision of the BOD. Don't necessarily disagree with much else you said.

 

[Nevets]

How much savings a year would "one" airline yeld... 20 mill? Just a guess... But if or magins keep shrinking... They may have too....

Just for perspective, Inc said they would "achieve $60 to $70 million in annual savings" with a "potential for $0.45 - $0.50 of incremental annual EPS" from merging ASA with XJT.

 

[goose32]

So if the ASA and Xjet merger created a "Super" Regional, what would adding Skywest create? Mega? Ultra? SureJet?

 

[SPDBRD747400]

So if the ASA and Xjet merger created a "Super" Regional, what would adding Skywest create? Mega? Ultra? SureJet?

I would say "Magnum" Regional

 

[asayankee]

Us and the A380 would now be "Super"-s. All departures would require runway inspections and 5 minutes of separation.

 

[xkuzme1]

Could be a way to park the ERJs.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Could be a way to park the ERJs.

Not really cool to joke about that.

 

[wms]

The memo just says the topic was mentioned. That doesn't mean it is being considered. Most xjet guys don't want to merge with skyw.

Most xjet pilots want to remain alpa, especially since DAL will hire 35% from alpa dci carriers and it is rumored Ual will have a similar stipulation. The rest will be split by mil, fracs, corp, 135, returning expats, cargo, non alpa regionals, etc.

Ps. If there is integration, the employees choose the representation not the company, so we can all be treated equally with equal representation, and the skyw guys won't get the extra koolaid parties from sgu. There has been whip-sawing, but with at least some of the group being alpa, the company has been motivated to keep the rest happy to prevent more organizing. If we were merged and gave up representation (I DONT CARE WHAT SGU TELLS YOU, SAPA IS NOT REPRESENTATION) there would be nothing to prevent the company from imposing its own compensation and work rules on the whole pilot group, which is their end game.