Best way to play music in the cockpit?

[Fly2Scuba]

I'm baaaaaaaackkkkkkkk

Found it interesting this post made it back from the grave and the argument continues. 2 points I'd like to make:

1) Yea the company manual says alot a stuff. I've yet to fly with a single person that has flown every manual to a T. Never once have I flown with a Captain that has conducted 100% steril cockpit procedures at the applicable times. In fact I flew with a Chief Pilot once who filled in at the last minute on a turn in business casual clothes and was reading through his mail in cruise. In my opinion the most severe threat to safety in the airline environment is fatigue. If every airline pilot called in fatigue when they actually were fatigued, then all the airlines would be in bankruptcy. So why not conserve some energy at cruise, allow the comfortable tunes or reading material fill your brain, and then have some reserve brain waves ready to go for more critical aspects of the flight?

2)Some air traffic controllers definitely find ways to ease the tension. I've taken tours of ORD and MSP Towers and both times a boombox was prominently displayed. At ORD, one of the controllers had his 6 year old son up there observing. They all seemed to handle the traffic just fine.

 

[DenverDude2002]

Or, what happens if nothing even happened on your flight, you swap aircraft and the following crew has an incident and they pull them!! OUCH!! These came from the NTSB web site!!

Why have a noticed a trend with DIA and getting on the NTSB website lately. Seems like a lot of stuff keeps happening out there, moreso than usual. Must be this whacked out Colorado weather, or something with the poles loosing magnetic polarity.

 

[flx757]

I read the question as the best way to PLAY music in the cockpit. I usually use some or all of THIS equipment.

 

[ICU]

As A Cpt, if I ever have the misfortune of flying with someone, listening to music instead of doing their job I will write them up and personally see to it that the FAA is informed about thier behaviour.

This practice is toally unacceptable and does belong in the Cockpit.

 

[skeezer]

This practice is toally unacceptable and does belong in the Cockpit.

So is yours. I would hope you would think twice about this because it will come back to haunt you. Doing so would completely break down communications in the cockpit because your FO will no longer be willing to help out. Additionaly, if you did that to me you better not so much as break wind below 10,000' or I will report you, if your airspeed reaches 251kts below 10,000' I will report you, every little thing you do wrong will be reported to the company and FAA.

I hope you see how unproffessional ratting someone out is, and how it will lead to a more dangerous situation with regards to safety than listening to a few tunes ever would. If you have a problem with someone listening to music simply let them know that politely and most, if not all, will turn it off while flying with you. Just relax, and realize that with your attitude you are most likely in the top ten worst captains list at your company.

Then again, I hope that was just flamebait.

Peace!

Skeezer

 

[ICU]

So is yours. I would hope you would think twice about this because it will come back to haunt you. Doing so would completely break down communications in the cockpit because your FO will no longer be willing to help out. Additionaly, if you did that to me you better not so much as break wind below 10,000' or I will report you, if your airspeed reaches 251kts below 10,000' I will report you, every little thing you do wrong will be reported to the company and FAA.

I hope you see how unproffessional ratting someone out is, and how it will lead to a more dangerous situation with regards to safety than listening to a few tunes ever would. If you have a problem with someone listening to music simply let them know that politely and most, if not all, will turn it off while flying with you. Just relax, and realize that with your attitude you are most likely in the top ten worst captains list at your company.

Then again, I hope that was just flamebait.

Peace!

Skeezer

I'll take my chances, this is not about a personal attack on my self, its about people who don't take their jobs seriously, being the professional that you are, when you can spell unprofessional try a better retort.

 

[iflyabeech]

In my Caravan I use an Y-adapter from Radio Shack that I attach to the headphone jack and my headset. The I have an adapter that goes from the small "walkman" plug to the bigger size of the larger headphone jack. Between the mp3 player and the y-adapter I have a "microphone booster" from Radio Shack. This setup works great, you can easily hear ATC/other traffic/talkative FO's on the intercom. It only cost me about $15 bucks to make, and it works better that the $200 muse box that some of my FO's have. I will look for the part numbers.

 

[j41driver]

And I suppose you guys who are b!tching about the music never, EVER read on the flight deck? This is an equal attention diverter, and I would guess in most ops specs it is against company policy. Professional pilots, blah blah blah....

Yes, but at least we can hear the radio. And we are quickly alert to what's going on, rather than having to shut off our player, start realizing we're on an airplane, etc.

What ever happened to "see and avoid"? I'd wager that the guy with the music has his eyes outside a lot more than someone who's reading a book.

 

[Fly2Scuba]

As A Cpt, if I ever have the misfortune of flying with someone, listening to music instead of doing their job I will write them up and personally see to it that the FAA is informed about thier behaviour.

This practice is toally unacceptable and does belong in the Cockpit.

Wow! You sir have some major wanna be anal law enforcement officer issues. So you really think listening to music deserves FAA enforcement action? Whatever happened to just saying "hey dude, I'd prefer not to have any music playing while were flying. My personal preference." Next step if the FO gave you a hard time over it would be your union's professional standards. Next step after that would be the chief pilot. Last always in any situation unless blantantly unsafe would be to rat someone out to the FAA. Personally I think you're a real scumbag for even suggesting FAA enforcement at the get go for music playing. I hope I never fly with you..........................Period. Unless of course you have a major attitude adjustment. Your one of these types that's gonna have a heart attack before you're 50.

Let me just tell you I've been across the pond a 767 in the jumpseat and the pilots can get real creative in passing the time. Also, on a loaded 737 while I was jumpseating, one of the flight attendants brought up a CD player minature speakers and some wierd sounding tunes that we all (Cpt, FO, 2 jumpseaters, and the FA) listened to for a short while. But I guess all of us should have been turned into the FAA, huh. I've had a FAA inspector ride along up front while I was flying and he slept through most of the flight. Would you have turned in him? If you can dig up an accident report documenting listening to music during cruise as a contributing factor, then I'll apologize. Otherwise, you should.

 

[probablecause]

ICU quote:
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Originally posted by skeezer
So is yours. I would hope you would think twice about this because it will come back to haunt you. Doing so would completely break down communications in the cockpit because your FO will no longer be willing to help out. Additionaly, if you did that to me you better not so much as break wind below 10,000' or I will report you, if your airspeed reaches 251kts below 10,000' I will report you, every little thing you do wrong will be reported to the company and FAA.

I hope you see how unproffessional ratting someone out is, and how it will lead to a more dangerous situation with regards to safety than listening to a few tunes ever would. If you have a problem with someone listening to music simply let them know that politely and most, if not all, will turn it off while flying with you. Just relax, and realize that with your attitude you are most likely in the top ten worst captains list at your company.

Then again, I hope that was just flamebait.

Peace!

Skeezer
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I'll take my chances, this is not about a personal attack on my self, its about people who don't take their jobs seriously, being the professional that you are, when you can spell unprofessional try a better retort.


ICU

As A Cpt, if I ever have the misfortune of flying with someone, listening to music instead of doing their job I will write them up and personally see to it that the FAA is informed about thier behaviour.

This practice is toally unacceptable and does belong in the Cockpit.


"behaviour" ??

 

[jbDC9]

a gem from ICU.

As A Cpt, if I ever have the misfortune of flying with someone, listening to music instead of doing their job I will write them up and personally see to it that the FAA is informed about thier behaviour.

This practice is toally unacceptable and does belong in the Cockpit.

I'll take my chances, this is not about a personal attack on my self, its about people who don't take their jobs seriously, being the professional that you are, when you can spell unprofessional try a better retort.

Speaking of jackasses... since when are you one to correct spelling errors? Re-read your first post... looks like it was written by a third grader, and one that rides the short bus at that...

Must be a real treat for the poor FOs that have to fly with you and your holier than thou attitude. So you've never just slightly bent an FAR or company policy?? Oh sure, I believe you....

 

[sleddriver77]

I concur!!

This practice is toally unacceptable and does belong in the Cockpit.

I'm with ya there, pardner. I'm all for any totally unacceptable practice that does belong in the cockpit.

And you jumped on the other guy for his spelling and grammar??? Sheesh.

 

[OUjetdrvr]

Personally, for entertainment, I just sing or whistle along with the chorus of voices in my head!

I know for a fact one can easily and competently listen to music and fly, I saw it done on "IRON EAGLE", the guy even saved his dad!

I have heard ATC transmissions with background noises that sounded like a dance fever party going on or times when it sounded like Bobo the clown showed up and made balloon animals for all the good little controllers!

I also assume it would be way out of line to watch pjorn on a DVD player hooked into the DC system whilst OTJ?


For those intent on jamming at altitude-its your ass and unfortunetly your pax asses as well and dont run into my ass up there

For those that are holiest than thoust- LIGHTEN UP

 

[DenverDude2002]

What about using the ADF to get AM signals? If it was so horrible then im sure there'd be some block to prevent pilots from doing it (but in most parts of the country, listening to AM radio is enough torture in itself...)

 

[Snakum]

I read the question as the best way to PLAY music in the cockpit. I usually use some or all of THIS equipment

I tried playing my Ibanez Artcore in a Skyhawk, but I couldn't shift it far enough to stop banging the headstock on the window without making it difficult to reach the trim wheel and fuel selector. Any suggestions?

BTW ... saw a nice old Carvin 1x12 (script logo) for $250 and would have laid it away (I'm very poor) but someone had pulled the 6L6CGs out and replaced the tube sockets so that it'd take the EL34s that came on later models. Any experience with this mod? Sounded really nice.

Minh Setzer

Thread Hijack ... Pull Up .. woop woop ...

 

[skeezer]

ICU,

Sorry that my spelling wasn't perfect dude, I was trying to watch the F1 race and type at the same time. Are you going to turn me in to the moderators for not focusing my full attention on flightinfo.com?

Peace!

Skeezer

 

[flx757]

I tried playing my Ibanez Artcore in a Skyhawk, but I couldn't shift it far enough to stop banging the headstock on the window without making it difficult to reach the trim wheel and fuel selector. Any suggestions?

Yeah....forget about the trim wheel and fuel selector and concentrate on the IMPORTANT stuff.

As for your other question, no...I haven't heard of that mod, so I couldn't say one way or the other about how that would work out.

 

[Four02Driver]

Finally Some music

I use a portable intercom that has an aux input. it works great

 

[PadFull'oTrim]

I hired a live band to play enroute but they can't all fit on the flight deck, so they can only play while we load and unload the paxs.