Best way to play music in the cockpit?

[CRJ puppy]

Jazz is de Ballz........

 

[Cardinal]

Music is just another layer of noise, albeit a more pleasing one. And it's less distracting than either conversation or talk radio, it takes less mental capacity than either of those activities. Obvioulsy common sense dictates that you turn it off when you're being vectored to final at ORD. But a controllers voice is clear, distinct, and sounds nothing like a little Deftones in the background - just turn up your headset. Earbuds underneath work great and they're personal, it's not an entire cockpit issue.

So I suppose y'all have never had two different radios selected on your audio panel at the same time? Never given instruction while being handled by a controller?

Luddites

 

[Mookie]

Two words.....Play Freebird!!!!!!


MP3's are essential on those loooooooooong legs. Music goes on and off through 18,000'. at least that was the rule last month!

Mookie

 

[Hawker rider]

yeah...

reading...music....chit chat.... I don't see anythig wrong with any of them. as long as it's done wisely, not below 10.000', not during any emergencies etc etc.

 

[Mookie]

"not during any emergencies etc etc"

No way...that would be awesome. a little "Welcome to the Jungle" that cues up when a triple chime goes off. that would be great to hear over the CVR when talking it over with the chief pilot, though my chief pilot looks more like a Skynard guy.

Mookie

 

[ifly4food]

On the CRJ, I rubber band an earbud to the mic on the jumpseater's headset and place it behind my seat. To listen in the cockpit over the intercom, put the jumpseater's mic switch in I/C. To listen in the back, put the jumpseater's switch on PA, push the PA button and use a rubber band to hold the switch in R/T

It sounds cheezy, but works great.

I shopped Radio Shack, and nothing they had would work. I may get an adapter from Aircraft Spruce & Specialty that will convert to the aviation sized mike jack, then plug it right in.

For when my partner doesn't care for my music, I found that I can wear the earphones under my D-C headset and still hear the radio and intercom just fine.

 

[acaTerry]

MP3's are essential on those loooooooooong legs.

Essential?!!

Looking at the experience level of the pro-music arguers shows the youthful immaturity that requires constant entertainment. Just what we need in the front...

 

[ShyFlyGuy]

SELCAL-The best way to fly.


P.S. How can one hear better listening to ADF than listening to MP3 or CD?

His point was that the guy was nearly useless because he was preoccupied with the game.

Listen folks... someone already mentioned it but think worst-case scenario: CVR! If you hear it in your headsets, it's probibally on the CVR (you'd know your own AC better than I would), and if something... anything were to happen, you'd both get in deep stuff if they pulled the tapes.

In-ear headphones fit comfortably inside your normal headsets and when turned down just below the ATC volume can make for a pleasant flight... provided you listen to the right kind of music.

On a more serious note, if you take my advice and use the in-ear headphones and the capitan happens to enjoy your selection of music, you can sing into your mike and you can have a sing-along. In all likelihood, you'll have to keep him on pace since he doesn't hear the music. Another idea is to give him one ear and you use the other. The down side to that is when the FA walks in and sees you two leaning toward each other over the throttle quad, gazing longingly into the sunset over the rockies.

 

[CACTUS A-320]

Hey Positive Rate, I side with you and I hope you make it over to AWA- you will fit in nicely with our professionals. Way to stand up.

 

[Cardinal]

Looking at the experience level of the pro-music arguers shows the youthful immaturity that requires constant entertainment. Just what we need in the front...

It's a generational difference, not an experience difference. You don't see very many 50yr old passengers rocking out with headphones on at the airport waiting for their flight, but among the early 20's set it's commonplace and accepted. We grew up with Walkmans on and Gameboy's in hand.

We're a spastic generation - picture the 14 yr old with Nirvana on in the background, capping ducks on the Nintendo, all while hearing the important stuff mom is saying, grunting when appropriate, and filtering out her excess chatter. Listening attentively to ATC with a little music in the background is not an extraordinary feat.

 

[Fog Sucks]

This is one hilarious topic. I wonder if the ATC guys have some Pantera playing on "earbuds" when it gets a little busy to help them through those slow periods during their shift? OMFG. I guess when you're locked in your own little office at FLwhatever, you can do just about whatever the he!! you want enroute. Enjoy this "perk" because I'd love to listen to something other than the phones ringing and management, outstations, crews, etc. b!tching while doing my job. I'm not trying to p!ss anyone off here. I just think this is funny.

 

[Cardinal]

I guess when you're locked in your own little office at FLwhatever, you can do just about whatever the he!! you want enroute.

We can even take off our pants.

 

[embraerjetpilot]

Funny was the Southwest FO with a stuck mike talking about her mp3 player and asking her captain if he liked this type of music!!!

 

[lazy8s]

Can anyone tell me how I can hook up my X-box to the FMS. I am tired of gameboy and the male ends just dont seem to cooperate with the female ends. Radio shack must sell an adapter.

Ping Pong,

your problem is not the Gameboy, it's the FMS.
If you want to do it right, you should hook up your Gameboy or X-Box to the EICAS or one of the MFD screens. Nothing is going to break inflight anyway, they're all NEW airplanes aren't they??

I have a X-Box hooked up to the PFD (there's two and we really only need one) at all times, it make long flights go by fast!! And you can play Crimson Skies and really enjoy your flight time!!

Lazy8s

 

[PadFull'oTrim]

While the Lazy Eights guy above plays X-Box I masterbate while reading Porn. We always make it to our destination with very few problems (only one Emergancy, which I had nothing to do with!)

 

[PadFull'oTrim]

By the way, for all you "Pilots" out there who can't listen to music and fly need to think up a new job, cuz you can't fly. Plain and simple.

 

[Billy Madison]

I can't believe i'm biting again, but here goes. I think all these tangental arguments are pointless...this has nothing to do with your jeep or anyone's adaptation to the tech-age. Listening to music while flying a jet full of paying passengers for a Part 121 airline is blatently unprofessional. Simple as that.

BoxJockey, I disagree that reading a magazine or the paper is more distracting than music. It's one thing if you have a magazine in your hands and you get an RA or a decompression. It's a whole different story when you have alarms going off, need to call ATC, etc. and your mic jack is unplugged because your listening to Pearl Jam. Also, a little less extreme, but equally important, I almost never miss calls while reading, but the one time i listened in to "the big game" on the ADF, the captain and I were missing calls left and right. As a side note, I always ask a captain if he minds if I read...I've even had captains ask me if they mind if they read....it's professional curteousy.

Just wondering what you think of catching a little cat nap up up front?

Billy

 

[airtunes]

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Thanks!

 

[easy spirit]

.................
If you can't maintain your focus and fly your aircraft safely for a typical 2 hr leg without some sort of "entertainment", you might want to think about how seriously your taking your job as a professional.

Just my 2 cents...

THERE ARE LOTS OF GUYS/GALS OUT THERE THAT TAKE THIS JOB WAAAAAY TO SERIOUSLY.

Just my 2 cents

 

[parrothead]

airtunes

This little cable is a little expensive! Anyone know where I can find one cheaper. I can get an old jack plug and splice into another cable for 5 bucks if I have to. Any info would be nice!

Happy tunes!

 

[tscarecrow]

I've been browsing here for a while...

and I think this is the best thread I've seen yet!

Bless you all.

P.S. - You need an old P.O.S. headset, a skinny headset wire, and a little bit of imagination. Oh Yeah, "The Dark Side of the Moon" never hurts. The CA who showed me this was immediatedly vaulted to #1 CA status! Bless you T.D.!

IP kick in on this! It's my birthday!

 

[Axel]

The CA who showed me this was immediatedly vaulted to #1 CA status! Bless you T.D.!

And there he will remain until the day something little happens and the recorder is pulled. He can then spend his certificate suspension period trying to come up with a plausible explanation for use at his next interview.

 

[Saabslime]

The best way to listen to your MP3 is to get a lightspeed series 3G headset. It comes with a port to plug in your tunes and has another cord for plugging in your cellphone. I use the cellphone feature regularly when I can't get a hold of dispatch through normal channels on the ground. MUCH better than when I used to try and hear them over the engine noise. Also, the external components automatically cut out when there's a radio transmission so no interference to worry about. Oh........and the ANR is outstanding!

 

[Bandit60]

Originally posted by PositiveRate

I can't believe i'm biting again, but here goes. I think all these tangental arguments are pointless...this has nothing to do with your jeep or anyone's adaptation to the tech-age. Listening to music while flying a jet full of paying passengers for a Part 121 airline is blatently unprofessional. Simple as that

I have to disagree with you on one small point. I think it is unprofessional in any type of flying for hire. Whether it is coporate, fractional, or airline.

 

[probablecause]

I often hear ATC with music in the background while they are transmitting.

PC

 

[Counselair]

I can't believe I'm jumping in on this but here goes. Age has nothing to do with it, experience shouldn't be needed to have anything to do with it, professionalism (if you know truly know what that is) mandates it. You're an airline pilot, a professional pilot, don't just act like one, be one. If you need an MP3 player jacked into your head while flying maybe you should seek the "Oracle" for a way out or better yet just take your ADD meds.

I've got a family that flies and would be much happier knowing that when they do the folks up front are actually in the game. Oh, by the way I'm a little tired of being the flying pilot and answering the radio, second call, while my non- flying pilot is flying in his own airspace. Yeah I know I'm old, 37, maybe a couple of tat's and some nipple rings might change my perspective. "For Sizzle"!

Just trying to do my job, not your's too,

Counselair

PS- The Captain has turned off the no "flame away" light.

 

[Bandit60]

I often hear ATC with music in the background while they are transmitting.

You sound like a little kid saying its ok because Jonny did it.
I'm glad I fly with professionals and not one you guys that have to have the music going at all times.

 

[flying4food]

I enjoy listening to music, I will usually play it low in the background, (using an earbud)I can always hear ATC or company. I think one would be taking a very risky gamble plugging your music into the aircraft interphone system, that music becomes public record if something should happen!!!

I think sometimes we all think we are invinsible, nothing will happen to me!! I have noticed a trend lately, that the NTSB is starting to pull the CVR/CDR even for minor incidents. As is the case with these two cases I've pasted below!! A cracked windshield, a faulty Hydraulic pump both non events to us, right. Except when the Fed pulls the CVR. Maybe you weren't listening to it wihen the event occured, maybe while at cruise you played it. Or, what happens if nothing even happened on your flight, you swap aircraft and the following crew has an incident and they pull them!! OUCH!! These came from the NTSB web site!!

On April 11, 2004, at 1435 mountain daylight time, a Canadair (Bombardier) CL-600-2C10, N609QX, operated by Horizon Air as Horizon Flight 4339, experienced a complete failure of the airplane's number 1 system hydraulics, while on approach into the Denver International Airport (DEN), Denver, Colorado. The flight crew shut down the number 1 engine and made an uneventful landing. The captain, first officer, 2 flight attendants and 56 passengers on board were not injured. The scheduled domestic passenger flight from Ontario, California, to DEN was being conducted on an instrument flight rules flight plan under the provisions of Title 14 CFR Part 121. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the incident.

A post-incident examination of the airplane's number 1 hydraulic system showed that the hydraulic pump had come apart internally. Metal fragments were found in the hydraulic filters and lines. The number 1 system hydraulic pump, the filters, metal fragments, cockpit voice recorder, and flight data recorder were retained for further examination.

On April 9, 2004, at approximately 1000 mountain daylight time, a Beech 1900D, N210GL, operated by Great Lakes Aviation, Incorporated, sustained a cracked copilot's windshield when the airplane's windshield anti-ice system was activated. Subsequent arcing and smoke was observed originating from a terminal block for the anti-ice system. The crew took remedial action and subsequently made an uneventful landing at the Denver International Airport (DIA), Denver, Colorado. The captain and first officer on board reported no injuries. The repositioning flight from Pueblo, Colorado, to DIA, was being conducted on an instrument flight rules flight plan under the provisions of Title 14 CFR Part 91. Instrument meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the incident. The flight originated approximately 0930.

An examination of the windshield showed 6 cracks in the outer pane originating at a location 6 inches inboard of the center post along the anti-ice terminal strip. Approximately 1 inch of the terminal strip, just beneath the crack origins, was melted. Four of the cracks extended from the origin outward to the right outboard post. They were located approximately 2 to 5 inches up from the bottom of the windshield. Two of the cracks ran upward from the origin to the top of the window. One crack was located 4 inches outboard of the center post. The other crack was located 7 to 8 inches outboard of the center post. A blackened area, approximately 6 inches long and 1-1/4 inch wide ran outboard along the anti-ice strip from the crack origin for approximately 6 inches. An area of brown discoloration began at the outboard edge of the blackened area. The area was approximately 10 inches long and 3 inches wide. The windshield, the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder were retained for further examination.

 

[skeezer]

First let me say that I have missed more calls because the Captain and I were talking than I have ever missed from listening to the radio. The same applies with all the Captains I have flown with.

For those that keep saying if music gets on the CVR then you will get busted let me remind you of 14 CFR 121.359(h):

In the event of an accident or occurrence requiring immediate notification of the National Transportation Safety Board under part 830 of its regulations, which results in the termination of the flight, the certificate holder shall keep the recorded information for at least 60 days or, if requested by the Administrator or the Board, for a longer period. Information obtained from the record is used to assist in determining the cause of accidents or occurrences in connection with investigations under part 830. The Administrator does not use the record in any civil penalty or certificate action.

Nothing will happen if they pull the CVR.

I listen to music all the time, but only when appropriate. Personally I think reading is more dangerous because you can't see what the heck is going on with the aircraft when your head is burried in the latest issue of Barely Legal.

Peace!

Skeezer

 

[flying4food]

Information obtained from the record is used to assist in determining the cause of accidents or occurrences in connection with investigations under part 830. The Administrator does not use the record in any civil penalty or certificate action.

I don't know about your company, but in my operations manual it talks about unauthorized reading matrerial or anything else that will distract from your flight deck duties!! Your employer could surely take action against you for violating policy, not only that but try explaining that in a future interview!!