Best way to play music in the cockpit?

[acaTerry]

And I suppose you guys who are b!tching about the music never, EVER read on the flight deck? This is an equal attention diverter, and I would guess in most ops specs it is against company policy. Professional pilots, blah blah blah....

Yes, but at least we can hear the radio. And we are quickly alert to what's going on, rather than having to shut off our player, start realizing we're on an airplane, etc.

 

[7B2]

Ooooh boy.........

 

[TWA Dude]

Lemme venture a guess that those who oppose music in the cockpit are perfectly okay with Rush Limbaugh on the ADF.

Dude

 

[mullet]

I can't believe this "entertain me" mentality. Can't you kids just do something without needing some sort of electric stimulation? You guys are like the Nirvana song.

You are absolutly correct! You've inspired me! I will now go and rip the stereo out of my Jeep! Maybe now I can pratice my whistling???

 

[Axel]

Unbelieveable

 

[PositiveRate]

I can't believe i'm biting again, but here goes. I think all these tangental arguments are pointless...this has nothing to do with your jeep or anyone's adaptation to the tech-age. Listening to music while flying a jet full of paying passengers for a Part 121 airline is blatently unprofessional. Simple as that.

BoxJockey, I disagree that reading a magazine or the paper is more distracting than music. It's one thing if you have a magazine in your hands and you get an RA or a decompression. It's a whole different story when you have alarms going off, need to call ATC, etc. and your mic jack is unplugged because your listening to Pearl Jam. Also, a little less extreme, but equally important, I almost never miss calls while reading, but the one time i listened in to "the big game" on the ADF, the captain and I were missing calls left and right. As a side note, I always ask a captain if he minds if I read...I've even had captains ask me if they mind if they read....it's professional curteousy.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Bah..... I think, being a Comair guy, you probably are against listening to music because it interferes with your ability to b1tch at Atlanta ops on the radio and tie up the frequency with your 1001 petty comments while everybody else is waiting their turn to talk.... but that's just my opinion.


By the way, thank you for lecturing us from on high with your vast 2500 hours of experience.


Lighten up, Francis.

 

[PositiveRate]

Thank you sir for reminding me why I don't post much anymore. It's impossible to say or do anything without bitter folks like yourself making everything a fight.

If you want to flame me because I think that listening to MP3's over the intercomm as a crewmember in a P121 cockpit is unprofessional....go right ahead. I know I'm right.

Get over your Comair / ATL hangups. I'm sorry you're bitter, but that problem has nothing to do with this thread. Either way, I'll let y'all fight it out without me from here on.

 

[Fly2Scuba]

I can't believe i'm biting again, but here goes. I think all these tangental arguments are pointless...this has nothing to do with your jeep or anyone's adaptation to the tech-age. Listening to music while flying a jet full of paying passengers for a Part 121 airline is blatently unprofessional. Simple as that.

BoxJockey, I disagree that reading a magazine or the paper is more distracting than music. It's one thing if you have a magazine in your hands and you get an RA or a decompression. It's a whole different story when you have alarms going off, need to call ATC, etc. and your mic jack is unplugged because your listening to Pearl Jam. Also, a little less extreme, but equally important, I almost never miss calls while reading, but the one time i listened in to "the big game" on the ADF, the captain and I were missing calls left and right. As a side note, I always ask a captain if he minds if I read...I've even had captains ask me if they mind if they read....it's professional curteousy.

With the MP3 player hooked up through the jumpseater's jack, there would be absolutely no problem making any sudden radio calls. Like I said before, I have flown in airplanes in the past with music playing (ADF and MP3) and as long as its conducted out of the terminal area, then no major distraction issues. Keeping the volume relatively low makes missing radio calls difficult and keying the mike cuts out the music just like if someone was speaking through the hot mike. Sorry you had a major problem in your incident; my experiences have been pleasant...Well as long as no R&B, Jazz, or Country Music is playing (my personal least favorite choices). Please no one respond with Country music is awesome. Thank you.

 

[username]

Country music is awesome!

 

[CRJ puppy]

Jazz is de Ballz........

 

[Cardinal]

Music is just another layer of noise, albeit a more pleasing one. And it's less distracting than either conversation or talk radio, it takes less mental capacity than either of those activities. Obvioulsy common sense dictates that you turn it off when you're being vectored to final at ORD. But a controllers voice is clear, distinct, and sounds nothing like a little Deftones in the background - just turn up your headset. Earbuds underneath work great and they're personal, it's not an entire cockpit issue.

So I suppose y'all have never had two different radios selected on your audio panel at the same time? Never given instruction while being handled by a controller?

Luddites

 

[Mookie]

Two words.....Play Freebird!!!!!!


MP3's are essential on those loooooooooong legs. Music goes on and off through 18,000'. at least that was the rule last month!

Mookie

 

[Hawker rider]

yeah...

reading...music....chit chat.... I don't see anythig wrong with any of them. as long as it's done wisely, not below 10.000', not during any emergencies etc etc.

 

[Mookie]

"not during any emergencies etc etc"

No way...that would be awesome. a little "Welcome to the Jungle" that cues up when a triple chime goes off. that would be great to hear over the CVR when talking it over with the chief pilot, though my chief pilot looks more like a Skynard guy.

Mookie

 

[ifly4food]

On the CRJ, I rubber band an earbud to the mic on the jumpseater's headset and place it behind my seat. To listen in the cockpit over the intercom, put the jumpseater's mic switch in I/C. To listen in the back, put the jumpseater's switch on PA, push the PA button and use a rubber band to hold the switch in R/T

It sounds cheezy, but works great.

I shopped Radio Shack, and nothing they had would work. I may get an adapter from Aircraft Spruce & Specialty that will convert to the aviation sized mike jack, then plug it right in.

For when my partner doesn't care for my music, I found that I can wear the earphones under my D-C headset and still hear the radio and intercom just fine.

 

[acaTerry]

MP3's are essential on those loooooooooong legs.

Essential?!!

Looking at the experience level of the pro-music arguers shows the youthful immaturity that requires constant entertainment. Just what we need in the front...

 

[ShyFlyGuy]

SELCAL-The best way to fly.


P.S. How can one hear better listening to ADF than listening to MP3 or CD?

His point was that the guy was nearly useless because he was preoccupied with the game.

Listen folks... someone already mentioned it but think worst-case scenario: CVR! If you hear it in your headsets, it's probibally on the CVR (you'd know your own AC better than I would), and if something... anything were to happen, you'd both get in deep stuff if they pulled the tapes.

In-ear headphones fit comfortably inside your normal headsets and when turned down just below the ATC volume can make for a pleasant flight... provided you listen to the right kind of music.

On a more serious note, if you take my advice and use the in-ear headphones and the capitan happens to enjoy your selection of music, you can sing into your mike and you can have a sing-along. In all likelihood, you'll have to keep him on pace since he doesn't hear the music. Another idea is to give him one ear and you use the other. The down side to that is when the FA walks in and sees you two leaning toward each other over the throttle quad, gazing longingly into the sunset over the rockies.

 

[CACTUS A-320]

Hey Positive Rate, I side with you and I hope you make it over to AWA- you will fit in nicely with our professionals. Way to stand up.

 

[Cardinal]

Looking at the experience level of the pro-music arguers shows the youthful immaturity that requires constant entertainment. Just what we need in the front...

It's a generational difference, not an experience difference. You don't see very many 50yr old passengers rocking out with headphones on at the airport waiting for their flight, but among the early 20's set it's commonplace and accepted. We grew up with Walkmans on and Gameboy's in hand.

We're a spastic generation - picture the 14 yr old with Nirvana on in the background, capping ducks on the Nintendo, all while hearing the important stuff mom is saying, grunting when appropriate, and filtering out her excess chatter. Listening attentively to ATC with a little music in the background is not an extraordinary feat.