B787 Secondary Cockpit Barrier

[Stukadriver]

Safety first! Unless it costs the Company money....

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49570060

 

[xkuzme1]

Deleted to hold my tongue.

 

[Ex737Driver]

What's to get exited about? We have a security MATRIX. Keanu at 38000 is more than enough to foil a cockpit rush.

 

[dustrpilot]

What's to get exited about? We have a security MATRIX. Keanu at 38000 is more than enough to foil a cockpit rush.

Didn't United have a rush on a 777 cockpit on a flight to South America a year or so after 911 that resulted in the intruder getting into the cockpit and getting whacked on the head with the crash ax? IIRC, not one passenger intervened.

 

[eaglesview]

Simply stated L-UAL was a victom of 9-11 therefore more safety procedures. CO was a by stander during 9-11. Their management , now our management, doesn't care about safety if it costs money. More saftey examples not related to security..UAL uses dual chamber life vests, one cartridge fails or one chamber has a leak you are still floating.. CO single chamber=cartridge doesnt work or you get a leak sorry about your luck. UAL dual canister aviox o2- CO single. UAL actually carries infant life preservers and hands them out before flight. Yes we lose some on every flight but we were always safety first...Not anymore.

 

[Gillegan]

In the interest of accuracy, I'm pretty sure that the secondary door is an option for which one pays extra. Not that it should make much difference if it is an obvious item of safety.

 

[IBNAV8R]

Didn't United have a rush on a 777 cockpit on a flight to South America a year or so after 911 that resulted in the intruder getting into the cockpit and getting whacked on the head with the crash ax? IIRC, not one passenger intervened.

I'm guessing Unical would argue that pilots are armed now and there is no longer a need for the barriers.

 

[Stukadriver]

I don't see anything about secondary cockpit barriers in the new TA. Am I missing something, or did it disappear?

 

[XJTAv8r]

Sign the petition for HR 1775 (Saracini Aviation Safety Act of 2013), to require secondary barriers be installed on all airliners:

http://capwiz.com/capapilots/issues/alert/?alertid=62753951

 

[Av8tor]

Done!

Sign the petition for HR 1775 (Saracini Aviation Safety Act of 2013), to require secondary barriers be installed on all airliners:

http://capwiz.com/capapilots/issues/alert/?alertid=62753951

 

[Shrek]

In the interest of accuracy, I'm pretty sure that the secondary door is an option for which one pays extra. Not that it should make much difference if it is an obvious item of safety.

You would be wrong as far as the 787 is concerned. Standard issue for that aircraft.

 

[airplane wizard]

Isn't a 300lb Flight Attendant just as effective at blocking the aisle?

 

[CFIT]

I's probably some pointless weight issue for the second door.

You know, like carry as little fuel as possible. Where one fuel divert wipes out a week of running around on fumes?

 

[AirMike]

Simply stated L-UAL was a victom of 9-11 therefore more safety procedures. CO was a by stander during 9-11. Their management , now our management, doesn't care about safety if it costs money. More saftey examples not related to security..UAL uses dual chamber life vests, one cartridge fails or one chamber has a leak you are still floating.. CO single chamber=cartridge doesnt work or you get a leak sorry about your luck. UAL dual canister aviox o2- CO single. UAL actually carries infant life preservers and hands them out before flight. Yes we lose some on every flight but we were always safety first...Not anymore.

Remind me never to bring my infant on a sCAL flight. I can't believe those 2nd tier losers don't even carry infant life vests! I guess that's what happens when you don't actually fly over a body of water wider than the Mississippi!

 

[Stukadriver]

Isn't a 300lb Flight Attendant just as effective at blocking the aisle?

Not when she's sitting on the jumpseat reading Cat Fancy.

 

[Ex737Driver]

Remind me never to bring my infant on a sCAL flight. I can't believe those 2nd tier losers don't even carry infant life vests! I guess that's what happens when you don't actually fly over a body of water wider than the Mississippi!

Ooooo. Harsh. How may 757 are ETOPS at UAL?

 

[Shrek]

We have 767s 777s and the whale for widebody type flying.

It always makes me laugh when somebody says "Are they ETOPS?!"
What is sad is that we have Guppy ETOPS now. Small airline thinking right there.

So you think a GS or a 1Ker will take that type of operation for long?

 

[Ex737Driver]

We have 767s 777s and the whale for widebody type flying.

It always makes me laugh when somebody says "Are they ETOPS?!"
What is sad is that we have Guppy ETOPS now. Small airline thinking right there.

So you think a GS or a 1Ker will take that type of operation for long?

Why would you laugh? Who has 777's that can't fly to Hawaii? You gotta quit living in the 70's with your chest-thumpin WB. No one really gives two shats. The 1Ker did quite well with CAL which is why we actually had airline paxs that wanted to fly us. Read from Worst to First. Since this merger, we suck so bad, we can't get our own employees to fly on us. And you're still living in the distant past with "we have WB's". We had to close the 747 base in ORD cause the turd couldn't stay in the air and then move them all to SFO for heavy MX just to get a reliable fleet with spares. My friend, you are Nero playing the violin while Rome burns around you.

 

[Shrek]

Whatever lets you sleep at night.

Who's MGT is running the airline now again?
Gordo is gone along with his kind forever I am afraid.

 

[Stukadriver]

Sign the petition for HR 1775 (Saracini Aviation Safety Act of 2013), to require secondary barriers be installed on all airliners:

http://capwiz.com/capapilots/issues/alert/?alertid=62753951

Done!