AWA/USAir seniority integration??

[F/O]

There may have been lots of speculation already on this board which I missed, but how have the respective MECs been addressing the seniority integration issues? This could be a huuuuge mess, what with all of the furloughees.

 

[737 Pylt]

There may have been lots of speculation already on this board which I missed, but how have the respective MECs been addressing the seniority integration issues? This could be a huuuuge mess, what with all of the furloughees.

Look out for incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look, no matter how it turns out, someone will always get screwed, if not at least cry foul!
737

 

[TWA Dude]

F/O: They haven't yet because there's been no deal yet.

 

[Tomct]

Man, get ready to get SCREWED!!!!!

 

[MickeySlapnutz]

AWA guys......get ready to hear from your ALPA brothers at USAir about what a great company USAir was and how they were kicking butt in the industry and the only thing that sank them was the day AWA bought em'. Oh yeah....the CH11 was faked and forced on them by AWA management. And they dont want you guys getting a windfall on their backs and they expect date of hire and ALPA national will never let them be stapled to the bottom and they will sue you if they dont get their way and its a merger not a buy out and blah blah blah......

Thats what the TWA guys said and continue to think.
I expect it will be no different from USAir.

 

[Saabslime]

Coming from an AWA guy.

 

[PositiveRate]

"Man, get ready to get SCREWED!!!!!"

Tomcat,

You must be happy AWA turned you down.

Shut up already with the negative AWA posts!

 

[miles otoole]

rumor patrol, fwiw- As part of JOs bankroll, MAG pilots will be integrated into the list as well.

 

[General Lee]

What about the MDA pilots, who are furloughed from USAir but use the USAir callsign? Where will they go?


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Sandhawk]

My Captain during my PT was telling me a story about a trip back east to visit some family a few weeks ago. He said he was at a gas station and a guy in a pilot uniform pulled up to the pump next to him. He asked this guy who he flew for and he replied US Air. So next question to the US Air guy is "What do you think about this US Air AWA merger?"

The US Air guy replies, "They are just going to drag us down"

ROFLMAO

 

[Tim47SIP]

Good luck!

Who is merging with who here?
Isn't AWA the mergerer and U the mergee? (don't have clue how to spell that). Anyway, if AWA is the parent here and coming to the rescue of U, why would U get anything other than a staple? With fences and protections, all of the U pilots should be able to hold what they are flying for quite a long time. At least I would think so. I hope it works out for the best, but I really would hate to see AWA guys get any type of raw deal here considering what they have been going through over the past several years. They are now getting things under control through givebacks of their own, I would hate to see all of that needlessly thrown away.

 

[TWA Dude]

Thats what the TWA guys said and continue to think.
I expect it will be no different from USAir.

You are not a nice person.

 

[MickeySlapnutz]

You are not a nice person.

Oh yes I am. See...it says so on my signiture.

 

[SOVT]

General

The formerly furloughed USAirways pilots that are flying for MDA, are in fact, shown as recalled to AAA. We are members of the same councils as all the other AB, Boeing pilots in their respective bases. (DCA,PHL,PIT). We don't just use the callsign we are the callsign.

 

[General Lee]

SOVT,


Good, then you will be included in any merger integration. That is good news.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ash5855]

General

The formerly furloughed USAirways pilots that are flying for MDA, are in fact, shown as recalled to AAA. We are members of the same councils as all the other AB, Boeing pilots in their respective bases. (DCA,PHL,PIT). We don't just use the callsign we are the callsign.

I don't know the ins and out of mid atlantic as it pertains to furlough, recall or whatever else.

I do know that if this deal goes thru, than Mid atlantic and all it's aircraft (crews too?) go to Republic via the money they are giving Usairways.

Given the diminished rights to merger and fragmentation protections (LOA 93) I would guess that the crews would go to Republic. Hopefully not be stapled over there..

 

[AnimalTale]

This is to CARL S.,


I thought you said MICKEY SLAPNUTZ only talks about B6?

CYA

 

[SOVT]

ASH

Your right about LOA 93. ALPA's willingness to fight will decide how many of MDA's pilots will go with the airplane. From my rather uneducated position, the PID will determine how we (MDA) pilots are treated with respect to the AW merger. If the PID is prior to the transfer of control to Republic, then I would say we would be part of the integration IAW ALPA's merger policy.

 

[PHXFLYR]

What about the MDA pilots, who are furloughed from USAir but use the USAir callsign? Where will they go?


Bye Bye--General Lee

Don't shoot the messenger there,"Corporal" but from what I understand,
Republic Airways/Chautaqua Airlines is supposed to be purchasing MDA as part of
their proposal to invest in a re-vamped USairways. The E170's will then probably be used for their Delta Connection flights.....aren't you glad you asked ?


PHXFLYR

 

[BeCareful!]

The E170's will then probably be used for their Delta Connection flights....
PHXFLYR

That is incorrect........it's in the agreement that the airplanes will continue to feed US Airways Group.....which will soon include AWA.

 

[Bobby Orr 4]

AWA MEC has informed their pilot group that any USAir merger is a simple staple issue for them.

 

[xanderman]

what?!

AWA MEC has informed their pilot group that any USAir merger is a simple staple issue for them.

Really! Hadn't heard that one... Maybe I missed it seems as how I just read the latest hotline.

 

[General Lee]

Don't shoot the messenger there,"Corporal" but from what I understand,
Republic Airways/Chautaqua Airlines is supposed to be purchasing MDA as part of
their proposal to invest in a re-vamped USairways. The E170's will then probably be used for their Delta Connection flights.....aren't you glad you asked ?


PHXFLYR

Easy there chief, I was just wondering what would happen. No need to "demote" me. As far as the E170s coming to DL, some probably will, and they are a better airplane than the CR7s IMO. I still think many would stay with you, since CHQ has a large investment in USAir. There will also be some CHQ E190s coming your way, and maybe they will replace some of your 733s (USair's on the East Coast). That wouldn't be good for pilot growth at the new USAir. Take care.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Boeingman]

AWA MEC has informed their pilot group that any USAir merger is a simple staple issue for them.

Wishful thinking. It didn't take long though for the animosity and rhetoric to start.

This reminds me of some really fascinating conversations on common going over the pond during the proposed UAL/U merger. Once again, the brotherly love within the union will soon show it's true colors.

 

[Whale Rider]

Cleaning up Seniority integration is about as easy as cleaning up an oil spill.

 

[Carl S.]

Easy answer to the E170 flying, look on the side of the plane and see the words "EXPRESS", I believe Mesa or PSA/PDT may have room for you.

P.S- Animal Tail, Mickey is a very nice person, look at his picture!

 

[joevollers]

AWA MEC has informed their pilot group that any USAir merger is a simple staple issue for them.

This did not happen unless it was via secret whispers--- they did however say they will fight to protect the jobs of every secret cactus pilot

 

[Wiskey Driver]

rumor patrol, fwiw- As part of JOs bankroll, MAG pilots will be integrated into the list as well.

That's almost too funny for words

WD

 

[Wiskey Driver]

General

The formerly furloughed USAirways pilots that are flying for MDA, are in fact, shown as recalled to AAA. We are members of the same councils as all the other AB, Boeing pilots in their respective bases. (DCA,PHL,PIT). We don't just use the callsign we are the callsign.

So that I understand it correctly, the MDA pilots are part of the ACTIVE 3000 on the AAA list not furloughed?? Cause if not then the way I read you LOA93 it would apply.

WD.

 

[MickeySlapnutz]

You are not a nice person.

Question: Will any former TWA pilots working for AWA demand that USAir pilots get DOH on the intergration? I'll bet not. I would imagine that they will "see the light" and change their tune. Just a question from a very nice person.