Awa Us A350?

[TheDonger]

Don't you mean the trees in Pittsburgh?

427 pretty much ended the US Airways/Boeing relationship.

 

[FR8mastr]

I beg to differ, Steven Wolf and his kickbacks from the Government subsidized, IE cheaper airbus ended the boeing relationship.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Well when that a-319,320 takes you into the trees, you will be thinking .......should have stayed with boeing!

Yeah and the 737 will go into a rudder hardover. How many folks have been killed by the "fine" rudder system on the 737?

 

[B6Busdriver]

Was it not the airbus "CP" demonstrating the a320 to prospective buyers that day? And if it was, why would he not KNOW about or neglect to notice the "Alpha Floor" danger?

Alpha Floor isn't dangerous. It's quite a good thing actually. Fortunately I've yet to find out how great it works....yet. The chief pilot had all of about 100 hours in the airplane at the time and the f/o even less. Keep digging though you're doing a great job.

 

[TheDonger]

I beg to differ, Steven Wolf and his kickbacks from the Government subsidized, IE cheaper airbus ended the boeing relationship.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The relationship ended before the Wolfman came to USAir.

 

[ivauir]

Yeah and the 737 will go into a rudder hardover. How many folks have been killed by the "fine" rudder system on the 737?

if there in one that this discussion needed it was another ignorant comment.

 

[321 busdriver]

It was several management type pilots, their wives and/ or friends , members of the press along with others. And you should know , or will with experience, that flying a desk for most of the year doesn't make you very sharp. Definitely the other way around.

Was it not the airbus "CP" demonstrating the a320 to prospective buyers that day? And if it was, why would he not KNOW about or neglect to notice the "Alpha Floor" danger?

 

[321 busdriver]

I have actually lost both ra's. before. The aircraft will go into direct law ( something they say will never happen when you're in school) but the autothrust is not affected. However, turning off the flight directors has to happen, or the aircraft will go after the last altitude set in the fcu, and will command toga thrust.

from what I remember of the NW incident the AC had lost both RA's. The AC did not "know" it was below 100' on each landining and went to toga in the flair. As stated above they simply turned off the autothrust and landed normaly.

 

[321 busdriver]

No, we don't. Try to keep up.

Don't you mean the trees in Pittsburgh?

 

[321 busdriver]

You're both partially correct. 427 did put a tremendous strain on the relationship with Boeing, as blame was thrown around. However, the huge Airbus order simply came down to dollars, and U would have gone with Boeing had the price been right. Each Airbus we received was millions below market price. That's partly why Airbus had no problem when we couldn't take delivery on most of the airplanes. They were more than happy to cancel the order and sell them for a better price elsewhere.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The relationship ended before the Wolfman came to USAir.

 

[FR8mastr]

You have no idea what you're talking about. The relationship ended before the Wolfman came to USAir.

Im sorry it must be my imagination then, US must have been buying the airbi for years before wolf came.

 

[B6Busdriver]

if there in one that this discussion needed it was another ignorant comment.

Coming from you that means nothing. You need to ease up a bit. You get way too defensive about the mighty 737.

 

[flybrowntails]

i haven't received my must read bulletin yet.. i will take it as fact then that the a300 is dead. that is news to me--i thought we were supposed to get 7 this year and 7+ more next year. i really need to change my system bid.

fbt

 

[racerX]

I'm with Tomct...787 Dreamliner baby!

I was on the 320 series and bid off to the 737 as fast as I could. If I want a nap, I'll rest at home. When I come to work I come to fly airplanes. Airbus makes bad pilots good and good pilots bored! It's a 3rd world plane.

After everyone is done flaming this, does anyone know what the A350 fuel burn will be compared to the 787. The dreamliner is supposed to be a real miser and fuel is the name of the game these days.

 

[Cardinal]

I think it''l be a bit of a a bastrd child. The GenX and RR engines on the 787 won't have bleed air taps for pressurization, which Boeing claims will save 856 billion barrels of oil a year, or whatever. Meanwhile Airbus is going to take the same engine that has been optimized without those huge bleed air demands and bolt a big spigot onto the the HP spool to pressurize the thing, then cart around a big heavy, 30 year old fuselage. Nice article in Aviation Week about a month ago.