AWA/AAA negotiations update

[PositiveRate]

"Also on Wednesday, we entered into a philosophical discussion between the two sets of JNC representatives and management regarding the process for moving this negotiation to completion. Management indicated that this process was not advancing us toward a conclusion and suggested that we jointly apply for mediation as provided for under the Transition Agreement (although the TA does not require a joint request for mediation). We indicated our interest in proceeding to mediation while Captain Stephan spoke on behalf of the East MEC and indicated that his MEC was not interested in anything that would advance the implementation of the Nicolau Award. Management also indicated that the East MEC’s notion that separate and permanent contracts for the two pilot groups, as expressed in a recent East MEC Resolution, was not what management had in mind when they discussed a temporary period of separate operations. In fact, management claimed that the East resolution was in violation of the Transition Agreement. "

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Its obvious to me that the company is finally losing patience with this, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Hpilot]

Yes, if the East keeps this up it may bring good things for us and dire consequences for them. It's two bad because not all of the East pilots are scumbags. I think they're being led onto the train tracks by a minority.

 

[JT8D]

Yes, if the East keeps this up it may bring good things for us and dire consequences for them.

This thread is pure propaganda...and this statement is laughable.

 

[ferlo]

This thread is pure propaganda...and this statement is laughable.

The fact that the BOD isn't going to let East Co-pilots hijak a multi billion dollar merger isn't laughable. They have legal obligations to their investors and they will do whatever it takes to get the job done.

They're proclaim some kind of internal "force majeur" and do what they want.

The Court system will never back ALPA...it never does. They own the airline, they have all the cards, and they will win.

The East coast and ALPA national, if Prater doesn't grow a set, are all going to get their as-es handed to them, (once again). The company has made it clear that this issue is now on the radar scope and put everybody on notice.

At this point, the laughable idea is the notion that ALPA has is capable of influencing jack sh-t.

 

[The Victors]

Ya. That should work. Force those east guys to do what you want. oh ya. see no problems there.

 

[JT8D]

They're proclaim some kind of internal "force majeur" and do what they want.

First off you're making stuff up now. Secondly...how do you make someone go to work?

The company has made it clear that this issue is now on the radar scope and put everybody on notice.

They're not too quick on the uptake if it is just now getting "on the radar scope".

At this point, the laughable idea is the notion that ALPA has is capable of influencing jack sh-t.

I don't know if you follow current events or not, but trying to decertify ALPA as their union makes it pretty clear (in my book anyway) that the east feels it doesn't need ALPA.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

The company was trying for a soft landing to help the East guys cope with the merger. The rationality was that East had been through so much that it was the company's job to not make this tough on them... OOPS!

First off you're making stuff up now. Secondly...how do you make someone go to work?

If the East does not bargain in good faith and obstructs negotiations, the company has recourse through the NMB. The very fact that Mgmnt suggested mediations shows that even they understand the East is there in body only and they've now started a trail for legal action down the road.

The BK judge sure made the NWA FA's go to work.... The company will win in court,

 

[JT8D]

The BK judge sure made the NWA FA's go to work.... The company will win in court,

The company was in Bankruptcy. BK laws are very clear as they pertain to labor and the protection of the company/and or assets...the BK judge essentially had no choice...complete apples and oranges comparison.

 

[ferlo]

Ya. That should work. Force those east guys to do what you want. oh ya. see no problems there.

You're right, if the last 6 years has proven anything it's that labor is in the drivers seat. What was I thinking.