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G4dude said:
I think we are overpaid in many cases...
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I believe it to be a risk versus reward proposition. Flying is a risk, I use my skills, education, training & experience to calculate that risk to make it safe! For this you should receive above average compensation...

My father is an Orthopedic Surgeon. Performing surgery is a risk that he uses his skills, education, training & experience to calculate that risk to fix a person's broken bones! But in recent years insurance companies now like to pay only a fraction of what the surgery cost so he has quit doing surgery & now only does workers compensation cases as an expert witness in court. Down side is he has to deal with scum bag lawyers... New doctors ask my father how it was back in the 1980's when the insurance companies actually paid.

Bottom line... It really isn't worth it to be a profession anything if there are people like G4dude around.
 
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Capt. JD said:
I believe it to be a risk versus reward proposition. Flying is a risk, I use my skills, education, training & experience to calculate that risk to make it safe! For this you should receive above average compensation...

My father is an Orthopedic Surgeon. Performing surgery is a risk that he uses his skills, education, training & experience to calculate that risk to fix a person's broken bones! But in recent years insurance companies now like to pay only a fraction of what the surgery cost so he has quit doing surgery & now only does workers compensation cases as an expert witness in court. Down side is he has to deal with scum bag lawyers... New doctors ask my father how it was back in the 1980's when the insurance companies actually paid.

Bottom line... It really isn't worth it to be a profession anything if there are people like G4dude around.
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How does filming video on a revenue flight during approach to KSEZ factor into that 'risk calculation'?
 
glasspilot said:
How does filming video on a revenue flight during approach to KSEZ factor into that 'risk calculation'?
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Whoa! That's harsh. :beer::p

Technical question: Is it advisable to declare an emergency in the event of an inflight engine shutdown or failure? :erm:
 
glasspilot said:
How does filming video on a revenue flight during approach to KSEZ factor into that 'risk calculation'?
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It added to the risk as I was pilot flying at the time... But it wasn't my idea & I am no ones baby sitter!

How does taking off in a P180 in the Washington D.C. ADIZ with just a VFR squawk to burn off excess fuel factor into the calculation? Almost like painting yourself as a target for surface to air missile batteries that exist in the D.C. area... Maybe next time an Avenger will take a piece out of yours, ass-pilot!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/TWQ-1_Avenger
 
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Lol, guess that sorta stung a bit.

Say, all those guys you flew with called and want their Atlantic Bucks...or at least an apology from you for waving them in their face and telling them "Captains Prerogative" before shoving them in your pocket.

I'm over the ADIZ thing. Are you over being a total tool?

Maybe you could just tone down the gloat...
 
glasspilot said:
Lol, guess that sorta stung a bit.

Say, all those guys you flew with called and want their Atlantic Bucks...or at least an apology from you for waving them in their face and telling them "Captains Prerogative" before shoving them in your pocket.

I'm over the ADIZ thing. Are you over being a total tool?

Maybe you could just tone down the gloat...
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I bet your not over off roading in Salt Lake City cause that must have stung your ass a bit? Maybe you could get the SMART union to write in a clause to the contract that states that Gl-ass-pilot can DO whatever & SAY whatever he wants but still keep his jobby?! Also you get a P180 with tires that would put the tires on my Jeep Wrangler to shame! The Untouchable Tool can do no wrong, Ha-Ha!
 
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Capt. JD said:
I bet your not over off roading in Salt Lake City cause that must have stung your ass a bit? Maybe you could get the SMART union to write in a clause to the contract that states that Gl-ass-pilot can DO whatever & SAY whatever he wants but still keep his jobby?! Also you get a P180 with tires that would put the tires on my Jeep Wrangler to shame! The Untouchable Tool can do no wrong, Ha-Ha!
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Hell hath no fury like a young pampered punk reminded of his shortcomings.
 
I think I'll take a runway excursion on a snowy winter 5 years ago over filming an approach and stealing from my FO. You going to answer the question? How does filming an approach on a live leg factor in you 'risk calculation'?

Wait, you did answer it. You said 'It added to it'. But then you go on to say it was 'the other guy' and not your fault as your not a baby sitter. So let me make sure I understand...you're Captain enough to steal money from your crew but you can't control the cockpit...

I'm done with you. (And I still won't be your Linked In pal) Good luck out there.
 
glasspilot said:
I think I'll take a runway excursion on a snowy winter 5 years ago over filming an approach and stealing from my FO. You going to answer the question? How does filming an approach on a live leg factor in you 'risk calculation'?

Wait, you did answer it. You said 'It added to it'. But then you go on to say it was 'the other guy' and not your fault as your not a baby sitter. So let me make sure I understand...you're Captain enough to steal money from your crew but you can't control the cockpit...

I'm done with you. (And I still won't be your Linked In pal) Good luck out there.
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I was Captain enough to not create bad news! Try not to make anymore news for Avantair... They don't need your help with bad press!

http://aircrewbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/12/avantair-piaggio-p180-landing-at-salt.html
 
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I really can't believe what I'm reading...this speaks volumes for those who were responsible for screening applicants at Avantair.
 
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It also explains how they can fly multiple legs without an elevator and no one notices it missing. With a runway overrun and a ADIZ penetration, glasspilot is providing job security to the FAA enforcement division.
 
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FAR part 91.161

EngineThunder said:
With a runway overrun and a ADIZ penetration, glasspilot is providing job security to the FAA enforcement division.
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Because of Gl-ass-pilot ADIZ penetration incident the FAA enforcement division wrote a rule & created a training program for incidents like this... The Avantair pilot group had to do online training on the FAA's website to get a Washington ADIZ certificate of training. Mine is next to my college diploma on the wall!

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_G...a3a275ddf311d1e0862574a30049e712!OpenDocument
 
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So my incident was pre-rule and pre-training. Interesting.

Look, I'm not perfect. Never said I was. I got sideways on a contaminated runway in a Piaggio. I made a mistake and busted an ADIZ. Both half a decade ago. The runway was a procedural thing that has been corrected. The ADIZ was a lapse in situational awareness. Maybe a big one I concede. I was so focused on the trees I missed the forest.

But it was an honest oversight. I didn't go out trying to bust regs. A little different than stealing money from fellow pilots or filming an approach.

btw, the ADIZ is a violation I get to carry around for the rest of my life. Theft and filming are things that will eventually fade with time as long as the behavior stops. Life ain't fair.
 
glasspilot said:
So my incident was pre-rule and pre-training. Interesting.

Look, I'm not perfect. Never said I was. I got sideways on a contaminated runway in a Piaggio. I made a mistake and busted an ADIZ. Both half a decade ago. The runway was a procedural thing that has been corrected. The ADIZ was a lapse in situational awareness. Maybe a big one I concede. I was so focused on the trees I missed the forest.

But it was an honest oversight. I didn't go out trying to bust regs. A little different than stealing money from fellow pilots or filming an approach.

btw, the ADIZ is a violation I get to carry around for the rest of my life. Theft and filming are things that will eventually fade with time as long as the behavior stops. Life ain't fair.
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There were like 2-3 pilots that I took one extra coupon from instead of 50/50 cause they were a pain in my ass... Was it stupid & immature, YES. Did I get a bad reputation from that & acting like Adolf Hilter in the cockpit, YES. Did working as a PIC at Avantair start to drive me insane, YES! Why would I want a video of me flying with a major ex-airforce pilot pain in the ass customer in the back that I knew was a dick head from a previous flight? There is only soooo much controlling of other people's action you can do when your hand flying in the traffic pattern... We both got asked to resign! So I paid for that mistake.

Just think if the FAA had any foresight with there regulation writing you might be violation free right now, like me! Yay, I escaped violation free!
 
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Think this conversation has gone off track a bit? Probly better if neither of you talk for a while? Just an observation...
 
4 posts in the past four months (this makes 5) and I get "shushed"...

:rollyeyes:
 
glasspilot said:
So my incident was pre-rule and pre-training. Interesting.

Look, I'm not perfect. Never said I was. I got sideways on a contaminated runway in a Piaggio. I made a mistake and busted an ADIZ. Both half a decade ago. The runway was a procedural thing that has been corrected. The ADIZ was a lapse in situational awareness. Maybe a big one I concede. I was so focused on the trees I missed the forest.

But it was an honest oversight. I didn't go out trying to bust regs. A little different than stealing money from fellow pilots or filming an approach.

btw, the ADIZ is a violation I get to carry around for the rest of my life. Theft and filming are things that will eventually fade with time as long as the behavior stops. Life ain't fair.
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You are a good man for taking responsibility...but sshrae is probably right and it doesn't appear his comment was meant for a single individual.
 
"Hammerhead" would be a sweet handle.
 
Asspilot has to be the biggest dickhead on this entire board. Nothing but a bully and a trouble-maker and never stops.
 
I Hate Freight said:
Asspilot has to be the biggest dickhead on this entire board. Nothing but a bully and a trouble-maker and never stops.
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You call me 'Asspilot' and 'biggest dickhead' and somehow I'm the bully?

On second thought, that makes perfect sense on this forum.
 
gutshotdraw said:
Understood Shark.

I'm just wondering if having another union shop in the fractional segment will change the bargaining dynamic at ALL union fractional shops that are negotiating now or will be soon. Or will the fact that Flex is still non-union be successfully* exploited by management in reducing expectations.

Operative word here is SUCCESSFULLY. We know they'll try.
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Several thoughts. Flex has a significant competitive advantage by being non union. The owners and prospective owners will certainly like that and the pilot work force will be more flexible because of it. Also, I expect Avantair to go out of business within the year, the final straw being the union vote, just like CA. All this is good for NJA because the competition is being eliminated, but the big winner long term is FLEX, I suspect. Unless they go union too, which would be good for NJA and FLOPS.
 

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