Avantair thriving in this economic downturn...

[brokeflyer]

$2800 per hour?....did i read that correctly?

thats what a piaggio goes for?

holy crap

 

[BoilerUP]

I'd think that's GOTTA be a "jet card" type rate, and not a regular quarter-share type charge.

What's NJA charge for a 25hr Marquis Card on an XLS?

 

[glasspilot]

What's NJA charge for a 25hr Marquis Card on an XLS?

WAY more than $2800. Based on the popularity of the Piaggio I'd say it's competivaly priced. That's why we're still taking deliveries and gearing up for a new hire class.

Do you guys really not know what your planes go for on a perhour basis? That seems like pretty basic company information that you don't seem to know.

 

[brokeflyer]

WAY more than $2800

yeah, but it's worth it....wink

 

[corpflunkie]

yeah, but it's worth it....wink

Touche' Broke. I think it is safe to say we ALL give a high level of service to our customers. People are really beginning to realize the cost effectiveness of the P180 relative to other aircraft in it's price point (Light jet category)

 

[brokeflyer]

that was a joke ya know.....NJ and Avantair really don't compete.

that is why I put the "wink" in there.

 

[jonjuan]

I'd think that's GOTTA be a "jet card" type rate, and not a regular quarter-share type charge.

What's NJA charge for a 25hr Marquis Card on an XLS?

$8,200/hour, marquis XLS.

 

[RNObased]

WAY more than $2800. Based on the popularity of the Piaggio I'd say it's competivaly priced. That's why we're still taking deliveries and gearing up for a new hire class.

Do you guys really not know what your planes go for on a perhour basis? That seems like pretty basic company information that you don't seem to know.

Actually Glass I don't. Because I'm too busy flying. I'm glad you are guys are doing well, but I will never see a Avantair Piaggio on the ramp in Maui, or PANC or deep into Mexico or South America. These are all places I have been with NJA in the last couple months, haven't seen a single one of your planes down or over there or up there. Bottom line is you are limited and always will be, by the type of airplane you fly.

Just saying...

 

[NJAowner]

Avantair

Since JonJuan and I rarely agree on numbers, I do not know who he would buy his Marquis card from but he could get a better deal directly from the company.

On the Marquis side of the business, I believe the XLS is more like $6760 per hour + fuel adjustment.

You can be in the XLS/Excel fleet at NJA for about $4100 hour + fuel adjustment, + depreciation (but if you but a pre-owned share at today's rate depreciation would not add up to much), plus cost of funds of about $400/hr. So that is about $4500/hr + fuel adjustment.

There are many advantages to being in the NJA fleet (like upgrading) which are not possible at Avantair. Also, the Piaggio is competitive for short flights, but not longer ones.

I am sure JonJuan will argue, but what does YOUR monthly statements say JJ???? I am not picking a fight, but JJ is not too accurate when it comes to facts.

I think Avantair has its place, I hope they stay around a while, improve service, etc. And I may be a Piaggio share owner one day. I have looked at them very closely and hope they succeed. They fill a big niche I need, but I am not yet comfortable with them. Maybe I am too conservative. I measure most things I do by a cost/benefit analysis (maybe it is my microeconomics degree), but when it comes to putting my family or collegaues on a plane that curve shifts dramitcally in favor of benefit, not cost. This is not to be interpreted as a "dis", but as an uncertainty in the analysis. And for these missions, I try to eliminate or minimize as many incertainties as possible.

Good luck Avantair -- you have come a long way from Fairfield!

Fly safe.

 

[gunfyter]

$8,200/hour, marquis XLS.

Maybe he meant the X ... I think that was about $8400

 

[jonjuan]

Since JonJuan and I rarely agree on numbers, I do not know who he would buy his Marquis card from but he could get a better deal directly from the company.

On the Marquis side of the business, I believe the XLS is more like $6760 per hour + fuel adjustment.

You can be in the XLS/Excel fleet at NJA for about $4100 hour + fuel adjustment, + depreciation (but if you but a pre-owned share at today's rate depreciation would not add up to much), plus cost of funds of about $400/hr. So that is about $4500/hr + fuel adjustment.

There are many advantages to being in the NJA fleet (like upgrading) which are not possible at Avantair. Also, the Piaggio is competitive for short flights, but not longer ones.

I am sure JonJuan will argue, but what does YOUR monthly statements say JJ???? I am not picking a fight, but JJ is not too accurate when it comes to facts.

I
Fly safe.

Are you for real? I must be missing something from the information on a brochure. I don't THINK I'm dsylexic, but here's what I am staring at:
Citation Excel: $186,900 or $7,476 plus $700 an hour fuel = $8,186. Sorry, I was $24 off. BTW, gunfyter, the marquis X is $249,000 or $10,000/hour plus $900 in fuel. Someone asked, and I simply passed the info along. Sheesh...

 

[RNObased]

I am sure JonJuan will argue, but what does YOUR monthly statements say JJ???? I am not picking a fight, but JJ is not too accurate when it comes to facts.

LOL,

JJ, never let's the facts get in the way of a good arguement.

 

[BoilerUP]

Citation Excel: $186,900 or $7,476 plus $700 an hour fuel = $8,186.

No wonder card programs are so profitable (when cards are being sold)...

 

[netjetwife]

RNO, so I've noticed...

 

[jonjuan]

LOL,

JJ, never let's the facts get in the way of a good arguement.

Nor your hyperbole. Go scurry along and ask any of the marquis sales people and report back to me with your tail between your legs. Tick, tock....

 

[brokeflyer]

Nor your hyperbole. Go scurry along and ask any of the marquis sales people and report back to me with your tail between your legs. Tick, tock....

wow...and people say I'M an a$$hole....lol

 

[Bringupthebird]

How do the props hold up with exhaust beating on them?

 

[glasspilot]

Just fine. In fact, the exhaust is why we don't have to have a system to heat them. They stay nice and toasty warm.

 

[NJAowner]

As far as Marquis card pricing, JonJuan was correct. I was looking at something else and it was the end of a very long day. As far as the NJA pricing, my numbers stand.

Marquis card holders pay a premium for buy in small quantities. Just like buying a steak the day you want it is more expensive per pound than buying a whole side of meat. But there are many diffrent products which suit the needs of different customers. And why there is more than 1 flavor of ice cream.

Depending upon one's needs, Flex has a 275 day card for sale (yes it eliminates about 1/4 of the year), but it is a substantial price savings for those who don't need to fly on the busiest days/seasons.

Fly safe,

JJ-- Blazing Saddles and History of the World, Part I, are 2 of my most favorite movies.

 

[RNObased]

Nor your hyperbole. Go scurry along and ask any of the marquis sales people and report back to me with your tail between your legs. Tick, tock....

JJ,
Here is the issue. I wasn't arguing with you on the price. I'm sure you're close. Again check your facts or read the whole post, before posting. I have my facts in line when I post something that requires them.

Hyperbole; wow that is mighty big word for you to be throwing around isn't it now.

Tick, tock back at ya, what ever that means.