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AvantAir entire fleet grounded for mx Inspections?

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Trade the planes in for king air 350's

Ohhhhh... Another King Air zinger! Didn't see that one coming!

We're working to get out fleet back in the air ASAP. Things are still being worked out... As of this morning, we're still a long way from going under.
 
It sucks for you guys over there..used to work at avantair....aftcg, flew with you a few times...never met a sweatier person but it was a blast none the less.. I wish all my former co workers all the best and hang in there guys.
 
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It sucks for you guys over there..used to work at avantair....aftcg, flew with you a few times...never met a sweatier person but it was a blast none the less.. I wish all my former co workers all the best and hang in there guys.

Luis! What's up buddy?!?! Nice to hear from ya! You'll be happy to know that the Florida humidity still has me sweating like a freak of nature...:laugh:

We're going through another "fall crisis period" again, although this one's a little more serious than the ones we had in the past. Don't think this one's going to kill us, but it's beating us up pretty well...

See ya!
 
Luis! What's up buddy?!?! Nice to hear from ya! You'll be happy to know that the Florida humidity still has me sweating like a freak of nature...:laugh:

We're going through another "fall crisis period" again, although this one's a little more serious than the ones we had in the past. Don't think this one's going to kill us, but it's beating us up pretty well...

See ya!

I made it through a few (well, more than a few) crisis periods myself during my five years at AAIR. They come and they go.

Hang in there, guys.
 
Stock

It for sure is reflected in AAIR stock today, slipping 26% down to $0.20, hitting 0.18 for a short time.

Also having NOT a single VNR flight up in the air currently does not look good at all.

Update: Stock actually closed at 18 cents, a 33.33% loss in a single day, showing a market cap of 4.8 M.

A new low of 10 cents a share on Aair stock? Wonder if it will hit single digests today?

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?ticker=AAIR

Not an Avantair call sign to be heard on the airwaves flying this morning from D.C. to Miami...
http://flightaware.com/live/fleet/VNR
 
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A new low of 10 cents a share on Aair stock? Wonder if it will hit single digests today?

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?ticker=AAIR

Not an Avantair call sign to be heard on airwaves flying today...
http://flightaware.com/live/fleet/VNR

Who is this? Am I the only one that feels like all her posts are like a cheerleader on the sidelines hoping for the end.? Here is a ladder, get off your high horse. Good luck to all Avantair employees...
 
Who is this? Am I the only one that feels like all her posts are like a cheerleader on the sidelines hoping for the end.? Here is a ladder, get off your high horse. Good luck to all Avantair employees...

This is one of a growing number of pilots that worked at this place for a few years and got fvcked over, that who this is Ms. Salamander...
 
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This is one of a growing number of pilots that worked at this place and got fvcked over, that who this is Ms. Salamander...

No, you were rightfully terminated after years of acting like FO's don't matter, and that pilot services was only there for you, and you alone. I was so happy when I heard that the great narcissist was gone. You should have heard the instructors at recurrent. You didn't get fvcked. You got just what you deserved. Trust me, you are not missed. The only problem with you being gone is that one of the better jokes around here has been ruined.
 
No, you were rightfully terminated after years of acting like FO's don't matter, and that pilot services was only there for you, and you alone. I was so happy when I heard that the great narcissist was gone. You should have heard the instructors at recurrent. You didn't get fvcked. You got just what you deserved. Trust me, you are not missed. The only problem with you being gone is that one of the better jokes around here has been ruined.

Well, I am just glad I was given the resignation option like countless others that got Avantair justice! Also glad I left FAA violation free... The 5 year pin & CEO letter two months after the fact from H.R. was a classy touch!
 
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just heard about the lay off..I'm sincerely sorry to hear that! I'm praying its not a long term suspension!
 
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I bet this incident has something to do with the shutdown. The FAA must have threatened to shut them down if they didn't do it themselves. They (FAA) may have found more problems with Mtx. As well, how does a crew land and not realize part of the tail is missing? Good job guys! Thank God you didn't kill anyone.

Now the remaining owners/customers will flee.



NTSB investigates missing Avantair P180 elevator
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By: JOHN CROFT WASHINGTON DC 07:19 3 Aug 2012 Source:

The two pilots of an Avantair Piaggio P180 Avanti II that landed at the Henderson Executive airport in Nevada the morning of 28 July discovered during a post-flight check that the twin turboprop's left elevator was missing.

The finding came after a positioning flight of N146SL from Camarillo, California, to San Diego, followed by a Part 91 fractional flight from San Diego to Henderson with two passengers on board.

According to a preliminary report by the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), the crew reported that they had a "non-eventful departure and flight from San Diego, and that the captain noticed that more back pressure on the flight controls was required for a normal landing upon arrival at Henderson".

NTSB says airport personnel at Camarillo on July 31 found the missing left elevator "near one of the runways".

A pusher aircraft, the Avanti II has a canard horizontal stabiliser surface with retractable flaps on the nose and a fixed horizontal T-tail stabilizer in the rear with left and right elevators.


©FLIGHTGLOBAL

Avantair says the aircraft suffered no damage as a result of the event, which the NTSB has classified as an accident. The company expected the aircraft to resume service by 4 August.
 
I bet this incident has something to do with the shutdown. The FAA must have threatened to shut them down if they didn't do it themselves. They (FAA) may have found more problems with Mtx. As well, how does a crew land and not realize part of the tail is missing? Good job guys! Thank God you didn't kill anyone.

Now the remaining owners/customers will flee.



NTSB investigates missing Avantair P180 elevator
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By: JOHN CROFT WASHINGTON DC 07:19 3 Aug 2012 Source:

The two pilots of an Avantair Piaggio P180 Avanti II that landed at the Henderson Executive airport in Nevada the morning of 28 July discovered during a post-flight check that the twin turboprop's left elevator was missing.

The finding came after a positioning flight of N146SL from Camarillo, California, to San Diego, followed by a Part 91 fractional flight from San Diego to Henderson with two passengers on board.

According to a preliminary report by the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), the crew reported that they had a "non-eventful departure and flight from San Diego, and that the captain noticed that more back pressure on the flight controls was required for a normal landing upon arrival at Henderson".

NTSB says airport personnel at Camarillo on July 31 found the missing left elevator "near one of the runways".

A pusher aircraft, the Avanti II has a canard horizontal stabiliser surface with retractable flaps on the nose and a fixed horizontal T-tail stabilizer in the rear with left and right elevators.


©FLIGHTGLOBAL

Avantair says the aircraft suffered no damage as a result of the event, which the NTSB has classified as an accident. The company expected the aircraft to resume service by 4 August.
I believe that was the beginning..the aircraft was pushed out of mx within a day or two of loosing its elevator. Flown with pax and was then discovered to still have elevator issues. A week later (after the second write up)that same aircraft went off of 24 at TEB. That is why I believe the FAA has a hard on for the certificate. This is just the story I was told..
 
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There is ZERO doubt that AvantAir does in fact compete with NJA. I've seen many former owners getting into their aircraft.

That said no one wants to see this instability. It would be far better if we were all growing. However growth has been stagnant and decline for how many years now? Too many...

You can bet that NJA sales people are working overtime trying to,exploit those deep Berkshire Hathaway pockets. It was proven in the not so distant past, that WB was indeed willing to hold up the financial end during crisis. For someone who's time is worth a substantial amount, there really is no operator backed to such a degree as NJA.

Perhaps AvantAir is indicative of the greater downturn, willing to offer a product at a substantial discount, to those that see dollars before anything else? My question is, if this is a shutdown, what operator will be next? These aren't isolated financials at AvantAir. There are more than a few with slim financial backing.

Like I said, I'm not gloating, I'm concerned with the industry as a hole. An industry run by people who are so desperate to have increased sales, that they do so at a price point where success long term is impossible. We need this industry to appear stronger than AIRLINES, not weaker, and what is happening at AvantAir may just make more owners question the reliability of our collective product....
 
There is ZERO doubt that AvantAir does in fact compete with NJA. I've seen many former owners getting into their aircraft.

That said no one wants to see this instability. It would be far better if we were all growing. However growth has been stagnant and decline for how many years now? Too many...

You can bet that NJA sales people are working overtime trying to,exploit those deep Berkshire Hathaway pockets. It was proven in the not so distant past, that WB was indeed willing to hold up the financial end during crisis. For someone who's time is worth a substantial amount, there really is no operator backed to such a degree as NJA.

Perhaps AvantAir is indicative of the greater downturn, willing to offer a product at a substantial discount, to those that see dollars before anything else? My question is, if this is a shutdown, what operator will be next? These aren't isolated financials at AvantAir. There are more than a few with slim financial backing.

Like I said, I'm not gloating, I'm concerned with the industry as a hole. An industry run by people who are so desperate to have increased sales, that they do so at a price point where success long term is impossible. We need this industry to appear stronger than AIRLINES, not weaker, and what is happening at AvantAir may just make more owners question the reliability of our collective product....

Typo or Freudian slip?
 
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