ATA may fly smaller 100-seat jets. 717's

[NZCHooverboy]

Without A Union

The company would have furloughed by fleet and not inverse seniority. The timeline was in late 2001-early 2002. Our MEC was approached with the idea to furlough the 727 crews in order to quickly park the gas guzzlers (they did haul butt, however). MGMT didn't have the 737-800 fleet up to speed mostly due to their mistakes. Our MEC, backed by ALPA legal, quickly squelched this idea.

C8 pilots, you have no protection without a union. If MGMT deemed it necessary, they would drop you like hot rocks. Just the facts of life, ladies and gents.

 

[cr7driver]

Okay, here is my 2 cents worth!
"regional aircraft" Has to be the most miused term in the history of aviation. Sure the aircraft are physically smaller, but they are doing the same jobs as their larger counterparts. The only difference is the pay and respect that the crews who operate them receive. I feel that the word "regiona"l is one way for management to keep wages down.....nothing else!
I fly a "regional jet" for a major US airline. Furthermore, my airline operates into 32 countries and flies all over the US. From Halifax Nova Scotia to Santa Barbara Calif. Exactly what "region" would you call that?

 

[FlyChicaga]

BTW, interns can't fly, and their big egos block the door (had to say that too, FlyChicaga).

Maybe it's time I get a bigger watch!

 

[mt2]

Relax cr7. I was once a commuter pilot flying for a commuter airline. This business changes so much that before you know it you'll be flying a small, medium-range inter-metropolitan jet.

 

[vclean]

Maybe it's time I get a bigger watch!

If it helps you fly better

I had a decent watch until I caught it on the whiskey hatch. Now I use a cheap Timex.

 

[FlyChicaga]

Timex huh! Well now I'll look at people's wrists to try and figure out who you are! Bwahahahaha!

I saw a $4200 Brietling at Water Tower Place yesterday. Maybe that would help?

 

[capt. megadeth]

"The only difference is the pay and respect that the crews who operate them receive. I feel that the word "regiona"l is one way for management to keep wages down.....nothing else!" (cr7driver)

CAN I GET AN AMEN!?!?!?!?!

I love to laugh every time I think of fools at our company saying
"Oh but if we don't vote for the union, we'll get jets". George must've been laughing his a** off on the yacht when he found out the vote didn't pass.

 

[flyndesk]

FlyChicaga

Like I said... and I will say again.... no offense was meant with the 800 hour comment. Just making the point that the senior guys with more experience that had some time in at an ATA company might be the ones to get priority. I didn't say you didn't deserve your job. I didn't say you were a crappy pilot. So how can that tick you off? Unless you DO have a chip...

If ATA has a hiring boom, the guy to your left probably has the PIC experience and would get the interview first. Boo-yah for you, you'd get to upgrade faster.

Love to the Chico guys/girls, can't we all just get along?

 

[G4G5]

What gives?

I just got my Airtran annual report and their is not one picture of a 717. Plenty of 737 photos.

 

[FlyChicaga]

flyndesk,

No problem man. I figured I might have misunderstood, so no harm, no foul. I knew it wasn't a personal attack, but more a blanket statement if anything. I figured it was just another jab, and those get old. Water under the bridge now. Re-reading my post I came across as an ass, sorry about that.

I really hope the guys and gals above us on the list go. Not just for the chance to upgrade, but moreso to see them get out of here and move on. Many of them really deserve it.

Hopefully all this works out for the best. We'll just wait and see.

 

[capt. megadeth]

I know FlyChicaga and he definitely does not have a chip. He is one of the coolest FOs at Chicago Express. Nice avatar....dork. he he

 

[Ace757]

Hey flychicaga, Where did you get that avatar? I like

 

[rudderdog]

Hey flychicaga, Where did you get that avatar? I like

That's what your typical TWA flight attendant looked like........back in 1972.

 

[Midnight Mike]

Some of the boys off of the internet got creative, & came up with a photo of the 717, for ATA.

http://rockawayreef.netfirms.com/ata717.html