At least one fractional is doing well: Avantair

[brokeflyer]

back in the day there was more than a few times i had to fuel on my own personal credit card. I got it back but I was always nervous about it.

 

[Geronimo4497]

Except for the beginning of this thread, this has turned out to be a thoughtful and useful discussion.


What is going on with FI?! :nuts:

 

[learflyer]

whatever.....i was just responding to your attack.

Don't get all worried if people are talking about something other than NJA's success.....

 

[o2bflyn]

Don't get all worried if people are talking about something other than NJA's success.....

For christ sake....DON'T START! Think it all you want, but you are just as bad for saying it.

 

[corpflunkie]

awww jeez! I predict this thread going at least 6 pages now

 

[fly4funcrj]

my fleet is bigger then your fleet.. or so your mom said

 

[learflyer]

For christ sake....DON'T START! Think it all you want, but you are just as bad for saying it.

Tee hee hee....

 

[corpflunkie]

my fleet is bigger then your fleet.. or so your mom said

But ours burns less fuel

 

[GSXR600]

A well thought, articulate, non-biased, evenhanded post.

Move along, this is flightinfo...we don't want your kind here!

Hey glasspilot,
Do you guys get a lot of citation bravo or ultra owners from the competition come over to your company?
At least that's what I heard from someone that works there!!

 

[Geronimo4497]

Hey glasspilot,
Do you guys get a lot of citation bravo or ultra owners from the competition come over to your company?
At least that's what I heard from someone that works there!!

I've heard Beechjet share owners are the big defectors.

 

[corpflunkie]

It's my understanding that the beechjet is the leader, but we have had X owners, and 800 owners as well sign on.

 

[7777]

Does this Piaggio (spelling?) have a real toilet or APU? What does it have for avionics?

Also, are NetJets, Shares and the others in trouble? You seem to be implying this with your initial post.....do you have facts or just hearsay....if anything. Thanks.

 

[brokeflyer]

Does this Piaggio (spelling?) have a real toilet or APU? What does it have for avionics?

Also, are NetJets, Shares and the others in trouble? You seem to be implying this with your initial post.....do you have facts or just hearsay....if anything. Thanks.

ok well here we go again.....it's amazing how peoepl LOVE to see someone else fail just because their own job is crap. No wonder we need unions......

 

[wacoflyr]

I'm gonna assume that the four 7's guy was asking a legitimate question, at least at the start of his post. The Piaggio Avanti II has a flushing toilet, no apu, and Collins Proline avionics, with an FMS. We, (Avantair) seem to be in reasonable shape, at least for now. I don't know about other companies, and don't care to speculate about the future, except that it is getting nearer all the time, and that there will be prevailing light today followed by darkness somewhat later. Unless the earth stops turning, in which case I think we may all lose our jobs.

Regards, Wacoflyr

 

[learflyer]

ok well here we go again.....it's amazing how peoepl LOVE to see someone else fail just because their own job is crap. No wonder we need unions......

What is wrong with what he asked? Oh, the union thing....unless they can print money won't do $hit in economic turmoil. No I'm not anti-union, just sensible.

 

[BeeDubya]

What is wrong with what he asked? Oh, the union thing....unless they can print money won't do $hit in economic turmoil. No I'm not anti-union, just sensible.

You are correct that a Union cannot save a company from bad management, nor can a Union save a jobs in tough economic times. Via the collective bargaining and minor dispute processes, a Union can ensure that staff reductions are fair. Through a cooperative relationship, the Union can work with the company to find mutually beneficial solutions in economic downturns with the intent of preserving the company and the jobs she provides. The success and efficacy of a Union is entirely dependant on its members. Together, they can help the company in success or failure.

Also, I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with the original question.

 

[7777]

ok well here we go again.....it's amazing how peoepl LOVE to see someone else fail just because their own job is crap. No wonder we need unions......

brokeflyer,

I am military. My job is not crap. The question I asked was legit and not derogatory.

You must be great to fly with.

 

[7777]

The Piaggio Avanti II has a flushing toilet, no apu, and Collins Proline avionics, with an FMS.

Thanks for the information wacoflyr. All of my question was legit.

 

[Geronimo4497]

7777,

Take the C-12 you have flown (I assume) and wrap a funny looking airframe around the systems. Now you have a Piaggio.

 

[brokeflyer]

brokeflyer,

I am military. My job is not crap. The question I asked was legit and not derogatory.

You must be great to fly with.

I wanst talking to you, and YES im great to fly with.