At least one fractional is doing well: Avantair

[corpflunkie]

It's my understanding that the beechjet is the leader, but we have had X owners, and 800 owners as well sign on.

 

[7777]

Does this Piaggio (spelling?) have a real toilet or APU? What does it have for avionics?

Also, are NetJets, Shares and the others in trouble? You seem to be implying this with your initial post.....do you have facts or just hearsay....if anything. Thanks.

 

[brokeflyer]

Does this Piaggio (spelling?) have a real toilet or APU? What does it have for avionics?

Also, are NetJets, Shares and the others in trouble? You seem to be implying this with your initial post.....do you have facts or just hearsay....if anything. Thanks.

ok well here we go again.....it's amazing how peoepl LOVE to see someone else fail just because their own job is crap. No wonder we need unions......

 

[wacoflyr]

I'm gonna assume that the four 7's guy was asking a legitimate question, at least at the start of his post. The Piaggio Avanti II has a flushing toilet, no apu, and Collins Proline avionics, with an FMS. We, (Avantair) seem to be in reasonable shape, at least for now. I don't know about other companies, and don't care to speculate about the future, except that it is getting nearer all the time, and that there will be prevailing light today followed by darkness somewhat later. Unless the earth stops turning, in which case I think we may all lose our jobs.

Regards, Wacoflyr

 

[learflyer]

ok well here we go again.....it's amazing how peoepl LOVE to see someone else fail just because their own job is crap. No wonder we need unions......

What is wrong with what he asked? Oh, the union thing....unless they can print money won't do $hit in economic turmoil. No I'm not anti-union, just sensible.

 

[BeeDubya]

What is wrong with what he asked? Oh, the union thing....unless they can print money won't do $hit in economic turmoil. No I'm not anti-union, just sensible.

You are correct that a Union cannot save a company from bad management, nor can a Union save a jobs in tough economic times. Via the collective bargaining and minor dispute processes, a Union can ensure that staff reductions are fair. Through a cooperative relationship, the Union can work with the company to find mutually beneficial solutions in economic downturns with the intent of preserving the company and the jobs she provides. The success and efficacy of a Union is entirely dependant on its members. Together, they can help the company in success or failure.

Also, I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with the original question.

 

[7777]

ok well here we go again.....it's amazing how peoepl LOVE to see someone else fail just because their own job is crap. No wonder we need unions......

brokeflyer,

I am military. My job is not crap. The question I asked was legit and not derogatory.

You must be great to fly with.

 

[7777]

The Piaggio Avanti II has a flushing toilet, no apu, and Collins Proline avionics, with an FMS.

Thanks for the information wacoflyr. All of my question was legit.

 

[Geronimo4497]

7777,

Take the C-12 you have flown (I assume) and wrap a funny looking airframe around the systems. Now you have a Piaggio.

 

[brokeflyer]

brokeflyer,

I am military. My job is not crap. The question I asked was legit and not derogatory.

You must be great to fly with.

I wanst talking to you, and YES im great to fly with.

 

[7777]

7777,

Take the C-12 you have flown (I assume) and wrap a funny looking airframe around the systems. Now you have a Piaggio.

Accept it is faster and won't stall....lol. Thanks for the reply.

 

[glasspilot]

Accept it is faster and won't stall....lol. Thanks for the reply.

accept: [ak-sept]
to take or receive (something offered); receive with approval or favor: to accept a present; to accept a proposal.

except: [ik-sept]
with the exclusion of; excluding; save; but: They were all there except me.


College grads...sheesh.

 

[AftCG182]

accept: [ak-sept]
to take or receive (something offered); receive with approval or favor: to accept a present; to accept a proposal.

except: [ik-sept]
with the exclusion of; excluding; save; but: They were all there except me.


College grads...sheesh.

You have nobody to blame but yourself for the next several posts, glass...

 

[learflyer]

Yeah, what a looser!

 

[7777]

You got me there. Take my diplomas away.

 

[7777]

A well thought, articulate, non-biased, evenhanded post.

Move along, this is flightinfo...we don't want your kind here!

That didn't take long. In the same thread as well. :laugh:

 

[Geronimo4497]

don't anger glass, he breaks easily. :laugh:

 

[glasspilot]

evenhanded [ee-vuhn-han-did]

-adjective. impartial; equitable: evenhanded justice.

 

[gunfyter]

evenhanded [ee-vuhn-han-did]

-adjective. impartial; equitable: evenhanded justice.

I just counted. I am evenhanded ... TWO! :laugh:

 

[7777]

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/even-handed

Is it nonbiased as well? :laugh:

 

[glasspilot]

Here's the thing...

Accept and except are two different words. Pronounced differently with totally different definitions.

Evenhanded is a word. Look it up. It doesn't mean an even number of hands.

Admit when you're wrong. I'm not a typo Nazi but ya'll pushed it.

 

[7777]

Actually, here is the thing...

The word is written as even-handed. You should use unbiased instead of non-biased in your sentence. Why evenhanded and then non-biased? Get it?

BTW, I think I did admit I was wrong.

I am off to a hockey game. Have a great night.

 

[glasspilot]

From "dictionary.com" (my source for all FI spelling issues):

evenhanded [ee-vuhn-han-did]

-adjective. impartial; equitable: evenhanded justice.


Take it up with them. Maybe Websters has a different viewpoint. Until a retraction is printed on dictionary.com I stand by my posts.

You did admit you were wrong. I was referring to the others that piled up on this silliness.

Sorry to all for hijacking this thread...

So....how about Avantair?

 

[Geronimo4497]

So there I was, at 10,000 ft., flying for Avantair..... :nuts:

What was that about not posting and drinking?!

 

[glasspilot]

So there I was, at 10,000 ft., flying for Avantair..... :nuts:

What was that about not posting and drinking?!

Posting and drinking is fine.

Drinking and posting however....beware!

 

[CherryBomb]

As to the point of the CEO referring to the Avanti in the "light jet" category.

If I had a scooter that reached low to medium earth orbit for a crew of 8 and a payload of 80 tons I would compare myself to the space shuttle, not a Vespa.

It's not the method of propulsion, it's the performance that buyers pay for. Hell, I could put your shiny jets on a grey hound bus...but it wouldn't be the same as jet travel would it? Again, performance numbers matter, not what's pushing the air.

The man has a point. Well said.

 

[hangarrat]

Speaking for NJA, Uncle Warren doesn't subsidize us or any of his other companies. Each company must stand on it's own merit.

If this is true, why are there multiple companies mixed in with the same financials? Kinda makes it hard for me to see what is profitable and what is not. What all is covered on that report anyway? :nuts:

I am no expert but I do know some experts and they all agree that they are unable to make any determination of what is profitable and what is not when it comes to those financials. The AAIR financials are about one company, its easier to see what is going on with them.

 

[mainiac]

Posting and drinking is fine.

Drinking and posting however....beware!

I hear that some laptop companies are adding the breathalyzer option to their computers. Blow more than an .08, and no boot-up for you.

Far less entertainment value here at FI!

Happy Holiday, glass

 

[corpflunkie]

I hear that some laptop companies are adding the breathalyzer option to their computers. Blow more than an .08, and no boot-up for you.

Far less entertainment value here at FI!

Happy Holiday, glass

OUCH!!

 

[flynryan15]

Never mind Happy Holiday's!