ASA's TA

[BCpilot81]

I will be honest, if I saw this KB in front of me, I would stick my "represented, due-payin" foot square in his junk. Then have ALPA get my job back. BECAUSE I CAN

 

[SkyNation]

I will be honest, if I saw this KB in front of me, I would stick my "represented, due-payin" foot square in his junk. Then have ALPA get my job back. BECAUSE I CAN

Classic union mentality. I couldn't invent a better scenario to illustrate it.

unless, you were kidding?

 

[BCpilot81]

Classic union mentality. I couldn't invent a better scenario to illustrate it.

unless, you were kidding?

yes sir, I was kidding. But I do disagree with the mentality of that letter. To sight one, I do not know of any carrier that has a 1st year Capt. At least one that uses RJ's for primary means of pax transport.

 

[Jmoney]

Retard!

Classic union mentality. I couldn't invent a better scenario to illustrate it.

unless, you were kidding?

Skynation, you are a retard......
-No, I'm not kidding.

I can't think of a better person to illustrate why retards shouldn't be allowed to fly planes than you...

-Not kidding about that either.

 

[KevinOppelt]

At ASA (no pbs) if you have 14 days of vacation per year you typically end up with two vacations of about 15 to 20 days off each.

How does that compare to skywest with pbs?

It doesn't. 11-14 days off is common in a vacation month. you get that anyway. That is one the problems with it. no 7 day conflicts in transition, training days built in. Hard lines gave you some extra days off during the year. Also, forced extra flying above and beyond what your senority should hold is complete BS. Also no cola. which is the only raise you can really look forward to at the regional level. wake up people. you are getting screwed. CRJ 70 and 90 pay is a joke. "we will pay you equal to other regional airlines". thats a great compensation policy. basically saying that as long a regional pilot labor is cheap, we will continue to follow those guidlines. real smart, bet that makes the pilot group feel good.

 

[CFI2766]

ASA ALPA updated their website to rebutt that letter. Check it out...

http://asanegotiations.alpa.org/Publications/SKYW_MNGMNT_PROPAGANDA.pdf

What is Klen P. Brooks' dog in this fight? What managerial position does he hold with SKYW?

That letter ooooozed desparation. It reminded me a lot of Kevin Bacon's character in Animal House: "Remain calm, all is well!!..."

 

[SkyNation]

yes sir, I was kidding. But I do disagree with the mentality of that letter. To sight one, I do not know of any carrier that has a 1st year Capt. At least one that uses RJ's for primary means of pax transport.

agreed. and I thought the letter was poorly written as well.

 

[SkyNation]

Skynation, you are a retard......
-No, I'm not kidding.

hmm, just because I don't support having ALPA at SkyWest, eh?

it's alright. I don't expect reasoned, well-thought out responses from the majority here. yours in particular.

 

[BCpilot81]

In response to everything on here, I really hope that SKYW votes it in. Strictly on the fact that despite how you feel about unions, they almost always are, or eventually become necessary in this biz. I volunteer with ALPA at ASA. I am honored to help pilot group like ours in any way I can. All that I can tell the SKYW pilots is; look at the facts from both sides objectively. Vote regardless if you go "yes" or "no". A great deal of my friends are at SKYW in Chicago, I am sure we all have friends at either company. I wish us all the best, and minimal stress in our careers.

 

[E120ASA]

on a lighter note.

Subject: Aviation Dictionary

AIRSPEED - Speed of an airplane. (Deduct 25% when listening to a retired fighter pilot.)
BANK - The folks who hold the lien on most pilots' cars.



CARBURETOR ICING - A phenomenon reported to the FAA by pilots immediately after they run out of gas.



CONE OF CONFUSION - An area about the size of New Jersey located near the final approach beacon at an airport.



CRAB - A VFR Instructor's attitude on an IFR day.



DEAD RECKONING - You reckon correctly, or you are.



DESTINATION - Geographical location 30 minutes beyond the pilot's bladder saturation point.



ENGINE FAILURE - A condition that occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with low-octane air.



FIREWALL - Section of the aircraft specifically designed to funnel heat and smoke into the cockpit.





FLIGHT FOLLOWING - Formation flying.



GLIDE DISTANCE - Half the distance from an airplane to the nearest emergency landing field.



HOBBS - An instrument which creates an emergency situation should it fail during dual instruction.



HYDROPLANE - An airplane designed to land long on a short and wet runway.



IFR - A method of flying by needle and horoscope.



LEAN MIXTURE - Nonalcoholic beer.



MINI MAG LITE - Device designed to support the AA battery industry.



NANOSECOND - Time delay between the Low Fuel Warning light and the onset of carburetor icing.



PARACHUTES - The two chutes in a Stearman



PARASITIC DRAG - A pilot who bums a ride and complains about the service.



RANGE - Usually about 3 miles short of the destination.



RICH MIXTURE - What you order at another pilot's promotion party.



ROGER - Used when you're not sure what else to say.
SECTIONAL CHART - Any chart that ends 25 NM short of your destination.



SERVICE CEILING - Altitude at which cabin crew can serve drinks.



SPOILERS - FAA Inspectors.



STALL - Technique used to explain to the bank why your car payment is late.



STEEP BANKS - Banks that charge pilots more than 10% interest.



TURN & BANK INDICATOR - An instrument largely ignored by pilots.



USEFUL LOAD - Volumetric capacity of the aircraft, disregarding weight.



VOR - Radio navigation aid, named after the VORtex effect on pilots trying to home in on it.



WAC CHART - Directions to the Army female barracks.



YANKEE - Any pilot who has to ask New Orleans tower to "Say again."








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[Jmoney]

respect

hmm, just because I don't support having ALPA at SkyWest, eh?

it's alright. I don't expect reasoned, well-thought out responses from the majority here. yours in particular.

You see, I only give these type responses to people I respect, and you are definitely not included on that list.

To be brief, you are a fool! You come here and insult ASA people left and right and then expect us to respect your opinion. Get your a$s back to whatever mgmt job you hold at SKW! We don't buy your BS, we know what you are!

-Eat us all!

P.S.-People like you are the reason this inustry sucks so much-you are always willing to screw anyone else around!

 

[airksk]

You see, I only give these type responses to people I respect, and you are definitely not included on that list.

To be brief, you are a fool! You come here and insult ASA people left and right and then expect us to respect your opinion. Get your a$s back to whatever mgmt job you hold at SKW! We don't buy your BS, we know what you are!

-Eat us all!

P.S.-People like you are the reason this inustry sucks so much-you are always willing to screw anyone else around!

So JMoney, what do you really think? It's really not good for you to hold back you know, you really need to let loose more!

 

[ohplease!]

yes sir, I was kidding. But I do disagree with the mentality of that letter. To sight one, I do not know of any carrier that has a 1st year Capt. At least one that uses RJ's for primary means of pax transport.

actually, we here at ASA have had several 1st year Captains. Back in '98ish, there were several pilots hired off the street as Captains.

 

[BoilerUP]

Has and Had are two different things in time...