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WWEfan

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Just curious about everyone's thoughts on a possible "post-Delta" era for ASA and for Atlanta. With a Delta pilot strike looming on the horizon this topic seems to be gaining momentum in the crew lounge. I know all the Delta pilots think they will shutdown mainline, ASA, Comair and possibly Skywest when they walk out, but I'm not so sure. I'm not even sure Comair is without hope in this scenario. Someone has to pickup the flying in ATL and CVQ. I doubt any single LCC could pick up all the slack, especially the int'l flying.

My crystal ball shows multiple contract carriers filling the void until a bigger player can take over. I'm sure Delta would be having a fire sale on most if not all of their equipment and routes which would allow any companies with good credit a chance to grab airplanes quickly and at a reduced price. There are probably plenty of pilots on the street ready fly those planes too. At least it wouldn't take long to train them.

Just my 2 cents. Anyone else?
 
Mark my words "Delta Pilots will NOT Strike". Too much to lose, not enough solidarity among the group. ASA and Skywest are fine, just trying to iron out wrinkles in the labor agreement. That will take a little more time, but will end with both parties semi happy. Comair, well they may get bulldozed by DALPA to save some flying. I truely feel that DAL hates Comair for the strike and because they would not let DAL push them around.
 
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I certainly hope they don't strike. I agree there is alot to lose and not just for the mainline guys and gals. Everyone loses in this scenario.....except ofcourse the vultures that swoop in on Delta's carcass.

I guess another big question is...."Will George Bush even allow the Delta pilots to walk?" Maybe we'll get that answer with the Mesaba/Northwest situation.
 
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WWEfan said:
Just curious about everyone's thoughts on a possible "post-Delta" era for ASA and for Atlanta. With a Delta pilot strike looming on the horizon this topic seems to be gaining momentum in the crew lounge. I know all the Delta pilots think they will shutdown mainline, ASA, Comair and possibly Skywest when they walk out, but I'm not so sure. I'm not even sure Comair is without hope in this scenario. Someone has to pickup the flying in ATL and CVQ. I doubt any single LCC could pick up all the slack, especially the int'l flying.

My crystal ball shows multiple contract carriers filling the void until a bigger player can take over. I'm sure Delta would be having a fire sale on most if not all of their equipment and routes which would allow any companies with good credit a chance to grab airplanes quickly and at a reduced price. There are probably plenty of pilots on the street ready fly those planes too. At least it wouldn't take long to train them.

Just my 2 cents. Anyone else?

So you are saying these contract carriers will fly struck work? Which contract carriers do you have in mind? Who will then fill the void these contract carriers left by filling Deltas void? If Delta pilots strike, the big players who are pulling the strings, the GEs and AMEXs of the world, will decide if Delta is to liquidate or settle with the pilots. I doubt these players will liquidate a 16 billion dollar a year company over a couple of hundred million dollars. It would be a big void to fill!
 
800Dog said:
So you are saying these contract carriers will fly struck work? Which contract carriers do you have in mind? Who will then fill the void these contract carriers left by filling Deltas void? If Delta pilots strike, the big players who are pulling the strings, the GEs and AMEXs of the world, will decide if Delta is to liquidate or settle with the pilots. I doubt these players will liquidate a 16 billion dollar a year company over a couple of hundred million dollars. It would be a big void to fill!
Not going to be an issue.
 
Its not struck work if Delta doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about life after Delta....not while they are on strike.
 
WWEfan said:
Its not struck work if Delta doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about life after Delta....not while they are on strike.
actually if they were to strike and DL did die, it would still be struck work...technically. Still won't ever be an issue.
 
WWEfan said:
Its not struck work if Delta doesn't exist anymore. I'm talking about life after Delta....not while they are on strike.

And who will fill the void when ASA pilots strike? Skywest?
 
Can we not resort to name-calling? Lets keep this topic serious and civil.
 
Relax, ALPA has everything under control. You LITTLE GUYS just keep paying your DUES. Leave the real world stuff to the BIG GUYS.
 
Struck Work

ohplease! said:
actually if they were to strike and DL did die, it would still be struck work...technically. Still won't ever be an issue.

I guess you would have to ask the Eastern pilots that question!!

Trojan
 
ohplease! said:
and you're a comlete idiot:p

What is a comlete idiot? I do know this. I made it to the big dance and you are still flying for a regional carrier. Must suck to be you. War Eagle underachiever!
 
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are there vegas odds on Delta striking? If so, what's the line?

I put my next paycheck on NO STRIKE..
 
ohplease! said:
Eastern pilots didn't strike. Apples/oranges. technically speaking.

Oh Please - Are you on crack?

I was there. You weren't.

Eastern pilots did go on strike.
 
800Dog said:
What is a comlete idiot? I do know this. I made it to the big dance and you are still flying for a regional carrier. Must suck to be you. War Eagle underachiever!
It sure does. I really wish I could be like you..could you teach me? please?!?!
 
anon said:
Oh Please - Are you on crack?

I was there. You weren't.

Eastern pilots did go on strike.
yeah. I guess I finally let that stuff get the best of me...what the he!! was I thinking? duh.:0
 
79%N1 said:
Woa......23 posts............no General!

I know. He must have crashed over the Atlantic or something. Only a huge catastrophe could keep him from the regional boards of flightinfo.com.
 
ohplease! said:
and you're a comlete idiot:p

Classic. Read your own post. IT will be a factor, chief. Start preparing. Scope is HUGE and we won't budge. We have atleast 51% that would vote NO on any increase in size of RJ for DCI. But, you know differently.......I am glad you do.



Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Phony Marconi said:
I'm ready to step in and fly a 777 for $19.02/hr, but no less......fug that shid!

How are the ASA wages looking these days? Let's ask Jerry Atkin. If we get pay cuts, so will you eventually. That's how it works unfortunately.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
WWEfan said:
I know. He must have crashed over the Atlantic or something. Only a huge catastrophe could keep him from the regional boards of flightinfo.com.

I actually do 4 day trips sometimes, and I don't always bring my computer. Hard to believe, eh?


Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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