ASA Sept Lines

[IFLYASA]

WTF!!!

In 7.5 years here at ASA, this is the worst I have ever seen the lines. Here's the horrible rundown..

On the CRJ200, of the 326 lines there is only "1" 3-day line!!!, the rest are mostly 4-days and naps (standups).

2 lines have 16 days off.
13 lines have 14 days off.
41 lines have 13 days off.
That means 83% of the lines have 12 days off or less!!!!

I know Delta slows down during September, but that does not justify all 4-days. This is beyond ridiculous. If the company doesn't settle the contract in 2 weeks, I have a feeling September will have the worst "On Time" performance ever.

I know I have delayed lots of flying due to maintenance. Add in the 35 minute turns Delta wants us to do in ATL. Yea right! Notice how there are no lunch or dinner breaks built in? Thats one delay right there. I "encourage" my crew to take care of there nutritional needs.

What a lame-a$$ excuse for a company!!:angryfire

 

[jstyle13]

Your not the only one that is pissed!! This is already a 4 page thread!

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=102007

Vent on brother!!!

 

[IFLYASA]

After I woke up to look at the lines this morning, I started seeing red. It clouded my vision to where I didn't see the other thread. Now that my vision is back to normal, I do see the other thread.

It's like doing an ILS down to mins after 14 hours of duty..

 

[ASARJMan]

Ya'll know what to do. Now, do it!

 

[FishandFly]

I've only flown with a couple of captains that actually fly the contract.

Our lines will not improve and we will never have a contract, because the company sees us as their bit%# and has ZERO incentive to do anything for us.

The majority of pilots are either content with all of this or they have no balls.

 

[scarlet]

sounds like another Northwest Case on the way....

 

[JettBoii]

7 commutable 4 days that run Wed - Sat. That sucks.

 

[ASARJMan]

they have no balls.

Most of 'em have this syndrome.

 

[601Pilot]

Ya'll know what to do. Now, do it!

Yep, bidding sure is easier when you know you are not working on Labor Day weekend!

 

[GearUpLightsIn]

I've only flown with a couple of captains that actually fly the contract.

Our lines will not improve and we will never have a contract, because the company sees us as their bit%# and has ZERO incentive to do anything for us.

The majority of pilots are either content with all of this or they have no balls.

I 100% agree. Everyone bitches, but everyone continues to go above and beyond their duty to help the company. People will try to justify this by saying that flying the contract will break "statis quo" and we as pilots will face legal ramifications. A. No one even comes close to trying. B. That doesn't stop NW pilots... just quit crying about how our union isn't helping us get negotiations wrapped up, you aren't helping yourselves. Quit bitching about the bed you made.

The worst to me is all the people picking up open time because the company is offering 150%. Not picking up that open time certainly isn't breaking the status quo and it would have brought the company to the table ready to play months ago! The company is already hurting (wanting offer better 1st yr pay) even with all you clowns picking up open time, imagine how much worse it would have been if you guys didn't pick up all the open time. Of course, now we are getting to a reduced schedule and the staffing will cover our flying going into negotiations at the end of the month, taking the heat off the company. Way to go guys!

I try to stay pretty vanilla on FI, but I had to say my piece on the issue. And for the the record I will still have a beer with the guys I know who are picking up open time etc..

 

[zawillif]

WTF!!!

In 7.5 years here at ASA, this is the worst I have ever seen the lines. Here's the horrible rundown..

On the CRJ200, of the 326 lines there is only "1" 3-day line!!!, the rest are mostly 4-days and naps (standups).

2 lines have 16 days off.
13 lines have 14 days off.
41 lines have 13 days off.
That means 83% of the lines have 12 days off or less!!!!

I know Delta slows down during September, but that does not justify all 4-days. This is beyond ridiculous. If the company doesn't settle the contract in 2 weeks, I have a feeling September will have the worst "On Time" performance ever.

I know I have delayed lots of flying due to maintenance. Add in the 35 minute turns Delta wants us to do in ATL. Yea right! Notice how there are no lunch or dinner breaks built in? Thats one delay right there. I "encourage" my crew to take care of there nutritional needs.

What a lame-a$$ excuse for a company!!:angryfire

Umm, I agree with you. My only question is: At 7.5 years, why the F are you still here?

 

[Jmoney]

Umm, I agree with you. My only question is: At 7.5 years, why the F are you still here?

WOW-
Looks like we have a tool on our hands! If everyone got hired at 5 yrs, or maybe 7 yrs, or some such, the world would just be fab wouldn't it? People sometimes get hired with very low time, (especially if they have certain ethnic/gender characteristics) some don't-that's life in the big city!

Here's hoping you get stuck somewhere for about two decades-toolbasket!

 

[JettBoii]

Toolbasket? Kinda feminin don't you think? How about toolbox; monkeywrench; ballbearing; lavhandle; gearhandle; doorknob..etc.

 

[buscap]

Toolbasket? Kinda feminin don't you think? How about toolbox; monkeywrench; ballbearing; lavhandle; gearhandle; doorknob..etc.

Femminin works for me!!!

 

[FishandFly]

Umm, I agree with you. My only question is: At 7.5 years, why the F are you still here?

I'll take a guess

ASA turning to the worst airline ever has been a steady move for the past few years. Just a year ago we had normal lines, normal staffing, normal hotels.

Scott Hall has implemented his nuclear options on our pilot group recently that bring on all of these posts.

Our lines are worse than ever before.

Our staffing is ridiculous.

Our hotels are all going to be motel 6's once Scott get's done with them.

 

[701EV]

Gotta love this one.

57 hrs in BJX

701EV

 

[punkpilot48]

Gotta love this one.

57 hrs in BJX

701EV

Do you guys stay in Leon or in Guanojuato?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Gotta love this one.

57 hrs in BJX

701EV

Does the hotel have ESPN 8 "The Ocho"?

 

[punkpilot48]

Does the hotel have ESPN 8 "The Ocho"?

There is a bar ocho there, lots of international college coeds too....

 

[zawillif]

WOW-
Looks like we have a tool on our hands! If everyone got hired at 5 yrs, or maybe 7 yrs, or some such, the world would just be fab wouldn't it? People sometimes get hired with very low time, (especially if they have certain ethnic/gender characteristics) some don't-that's life in the big city!

Here's hoping you get stuck somewhere for about two decades-toolbasket!

Maybe, but if you knew the history of ASA then you would know someone with 7.5 years here was right seating on the Brasilia for 6 months to 1 year TOPS. That means they have >3000 PIC Turbine. Not saying that guarantees you a job . . . but it makes you competitive. And with everyone hiring they way they are I promise you said person could go somewhere else if they wanted.