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ASA MEC Letter

Crash Pad

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Hey guys we met with CT. Just want to remind everyone to be frugal this holiday season and into the new year.

Thanks for the heads up... Can you just tell us the furlough date rather than have me decode these messages?
 

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It does kinda seem like they are trying to tell us to get ready for the possibility of a furlough...

Good on 'em, frankly. This is an ugly situation, I'd rather that intel be out in the open so that I can plan for the future, as much as one can.
 

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Maybe I've missed it, but I've seen nothing concrete telling me that there is now a Roth 401k at ASA. I read the letter that said that we might get that option, but nothing solid.

Has that been officially announced anywhere?
 

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Maybe I've missed it, but I've seen nothing concrete telling me that there is now a Roth 401k at ASA. I read the letter that said that we might get that option, but nothing solid.

Has that been officially announced anywhere?

No, it's just being explored hard. They stated in the announcement they are trying to get it here rapidly but it's not available yet.

Trojan
 

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Let me start that I hope no one gets furloughed!

Correct me if I am wrong, but with the new contract, ASA could only furlough the last 180ish pilots who got hired after the contract was signed?
 

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Let me start that I hope no one gets furloughed!

Correct me if I am wrong, but with the new contract, ASA could only furlough the last 180ish pilots who got hired after the contract was signed?

Unless ALPA gives them up for something the senior guys want.
 

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Unless ALPA gives them up for something the senior guys want.

What is something that the "senior" guys want? And who are these "senior" guys?

From reading the letter, anybody 350 from the bottom and up could be construed as "senior". Senior enough to avoid the numbers the union is speaking about.

The only thing I have heard grumblings about are internet access in VPS!?!?!?! I hope we wouldn't sell anybody out for $5 internet.

I know HK is wishing for no cockroaches in CRW, but I think that may be an isolated event. Moot point, as HK wouldn't go for that anyway.
 
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What is something that the "senior" guys want? And who are these "senior" guys?

From reading the letter, anybody 350 from the bottom and up could be construed as "senior". Senior enough to avoid the numbers the union is speaking about.

The only thing I have heard grumblings about are internet access in VPS!?!?!?! I hope we wouldn't sell anybody out for $5 internet.

I know HK is wishing for no cockroaches in CRW, but I think that may be an isolated event. Moot point, as HK wouldn't go for that anyway.

I'm personally in favor of a paycut to keep everyone on the property. There are other things as well, I think could help reduce costs. I feel as a group we need to explore everything we can to keep everyone on the property--"protected" or not. Let's look out for our own, nobody else will. And this is coming from a "senior pilot." So GFY if you're one of those that are trying to create dissention in the Senior vs. Junior category.

Trojan
 

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I'm personally in favor of a paycut to keep everyone on the property. There are other things as well, I think could help reduce costs. I feel as a group we need to explore everything we can to keep everyone on the property--"protected" or not. Let's look out for our own, nobody else will. And this is coming from a "senior pilot." So GFY if you're one of those that are trying to create dissention in the Senior vs. Junior category.

Trojan

Agree 100%
Great post

I hope the overwhelming majority of pilots agree as well!
 

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I appreciate the "heads up" and all especially in light of how they handled the DFW closure, but why NOT just publish the date.

Why cant they just say "If THIS doesn't happen by this date, we will have to furlough" If it does happen then we dont plan to furlough.

What is the trigger point whether we do or not?
 

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They won't tell us a date because ALPA doesn't know, and CT knows but won't tell because he doesn't want people jumping ship to all those airlines that are hiring prior to the holiday rush being over.
 

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They won't tell us a date because ALPA doesn't know, and CT knows but won't tell because he doesn't want people jumping ship to all those airlines that are hiring prior to the holiday rush being over.

Bingo. It's not ALPA's place to announce a furlough anyway. Even if they know (which I doubt it, they didn't know early about DFW or SLC) they would wait for the company to announce first.

I am sure if the company is planning on furloughing they would wait until after the holidays. No need to run anybody's holiday, especially since the all the pilots that would be on the hook would be working Christmas and New Year's... too easy to call in sick.
 

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Brad and Chip met with Delta today, details I'm sure will start to emerge in the few weeks or so.
 
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