ASA future with Skywest

[enuffalready]

It's becoming more and more clear where ASA's future is with Skywest. Seems it would be very wise to start strongly considering onelist. Without it, we may end up shrinking a la Comair....

 

[SPDBRD747400]

I agree

 

[crj567]

How would you get a single list? The skyw guys voted the union down-remember?

 

[10nCLR]

Boring

 

[Data]

It's becoming more and more clear where ASA's future is with Skywest. Seems it would be very wise to start strongly considering onelist. Without it, we may end up shrinking a la Comair....

Was there an announcement I missed?

 

[enuffalready]

no announcement, not boring, no flamebait....just applying rational thought. I am not a union or anti union guy.... seems we wont get any help from skywest guys to do this, just thinking if we dont ASA may go bye bye. Not today, we have that contract, but we all knwo they can bleed us and do just as the are doing to comair.

 

[Smoke Toliet]

As important as it is for one list it won"t happen for many reasons. One the ASA MEC doesn't seem to care about it. They never make any comments about about. Even if they did I don"t know what they could do anyways. Two, not enough ASA pilots know the importance of it. Its amazing flying with some of these morons. Three, skywest pilots know they will be treated better staying nonunion, even at the expense of ASA pilots. Finally, the most important one, there is nothing the ASA pilot group can offer during negotiations that would make jerry or skywest management give it up.

 

[Plainsman]

Who would control a vote for one list? Does Skywest inc. want one list? And if they don't want one list then why not? I know why alpa wouldn't want it, $, but it would seem skywest inc could lower cost. During that last road show ASA director of maintenance said they were doing an audit on our maintenance program so it would be in line with skywest making it easier to transfer aircraft throughout the system, no one seemed surprised. I think upper level didn't like people flying "to safe" and they will be able to get around it next contract time.

 

[sweptback]

Of course SkyWest, Inc. doesn't want one list. It robs them of the control they have currently. Mind you this control is bad for the pilots, but half of the company isn't smart enough to realize that.

You can only bargain for what the company is ultimately willing to give you. As long as SkyWest, Inc. is unwilling to entertain it, it probably won't happen.

 

[10nCLR]

One list- no way will it ever happen and I don't even have a degree from ERAU or the highly accredited FlightInfo Academy.

 

[Raoul Duke]

The Skyw guys would be stupid to agree to one list. They can get whatever they want by no agreeing.

 

[Nevets]

As important as it is for one list it won"t happen for many reasons. One the ASA MEC doesn't seem to care about it. They never make any comments about about.

That is not necessarily true. They cared about one list during the proposed buyout of XJT by SKW.

I know why alpa wouldn't want it, $, but it would seem skywest inc could lower cost.

Why wouldn't ALPA want it?

The Skyw guys would be stupid to agree to one list. They can get whatever they want by no agreeing.

Skywest pilots do not have a say in it anyways.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

You can still keep two certificates and one pilot list. Look at RAH. ASA pilots need to realize that its operating costs are too high to be competitive with many other companies. Thinking outside the box like this would strengthen ASA.

 

[Speedtape]

It's becoming more and more clear where ASA's future is with Skywest. Seems it would be very wise to start strongly considering onelist. Without it, we may end up shrinking a la Comair....

1. Please, if it is clear to you what ASA's future is with Skywest(assuming you mean INC.), then share some of that crystal ball wisdom with more detail, rather than float some aloof assumption.

2. You can consider one list all you want. Until, and When Inc. decides that is what is going to happen, your wasting good brain cells--your choice. There are very good liability reasons why one list will never happen. A 4 year time line since purchase, and no campaign towards that goal line, is proof, for now!

3. Consider one list all you want, it's not a pilot group decision. Comair is shrinking because they are wholly owned, and the Parent can downsize because of that relationship, versus limited options with the contract carriers. However, when and if the economy turns around, you will probably see Comair be the first to grow, and with the lion's share of growth. We, if you are talking about ASA, have reduced our daily operation activity because we have had our block hours reduced--like mainline and every other Connection Carrier. It is a function of a down economy, and is not permanent. Less demand, means less flights, means less block hours.

 

[Andy Neill]

Does anyone have fleet and pilot population figures for ASA vs SKYW in Nov 2007 and now?
I see SKYW is reporting
21 CRJ-900
67 CRJ-700
140 CRJ-200
52 EMB-120
280 total

ASA is reporting
38 CRJ-700
110 CRJ-200
148 total

In Nov 2007 ASA was around 1700 pilots.

Any corrections/additions?