ASA furloughs 80 pilots

[sweptback]

If anybody that is going to be furloughed flies with me, beers are on me for the whole trip. Good luck, guys.

 

[COOPERVANE]

BEHOLD! THE DOWNGRADES! (coming soon)

I heard 40 downgrades but have not seen anything in writing. Was it just speculation or has anybody heard this number also?

 

[crj567]

Couldn't have put it better myself.. I have less than zero confidence in the bunch running DAL nowadays. The fact that Steinland is on the board just makes me want to puke all over God's green Earth!

 

[Texx]

I heard 40 downgrades but have not seen anything in writing. Was it just speculation or has anybody heard this number also?

Not at this time.

 

[ke4akj1976]

donation box

I sent an email to BH and he really liked the idea. He indicated that he would talk with a few people about getting this going. Join with me to donate 50.00 per month.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

I sent an email to BH and he really liked the idea. He indicated that he would talk with a few people about getting this going. Join with me to donate 50.00 per month.

I feel for these guys I really do but to be honest with you I have tons of my own bills to pay for my family. I have cut my 401K back quit the ESSP and struggling in other ways. $50 a month is a lot to me and maybe others. I like your thought but I have to take care of my family first.

 

[flyboyzz1]

Then maybe give $10 a month?

 

[jetracer5]

I'm in to help out my my fellow acey pilots!

 

[av8rbama]

Hey, I got two sympathy beers and a free basket of tots at the Brake Pad tonight.

Maybe we need to furlough all the time.

 

[outtahere]

I feel for these guys I really do but to be honest with you I have tons of my own bills to pay for my family. I have cut my 401K back quit the ESSP and struggling in other ways. $50 a month is a lot to me and maybe others. I like your thought but I have to take care of my family first.

How about you don't go out to eat one or two nights, now you have 50 bucks to give, and you don't look like an ass!

 

[CFI2766]

I will personally take a very dim view of anyone picking up open time with Acey guys/gals out on the street. I dunno if this might be a ProStandards issue, or, one of simple common sense, but NO open time. Don't do it. On this subject, it is not just a matter of business; the folks out on the street are pilots. No one will take care of pilots but pilots.


With regards to the company, I don't see how they could have handled it any better. It sucks, but realistically, how could this have been handled any better? Credit where credit is due.

 

[CFI2766]

Hey, I got two sympathy beers and a free basket of tots at the Brake Pad tonight.

Maybe we need to furlough all the time.

The way to handle this, everybody.

Plus, extra points for the sympathy vote from the Mrs...

All in all, well done!!

 

[ohplease!]

How about you don't go out to eat one or two nights, now you have 50 bucks to give, and you don't look like an ass!

I'm not sure if its starting to sound like socialism or extortion....wow.

 

[ohplease!]

I will personally take a very dim view of anyone picking up open time with Acey guys/gals out on the street. I dunno if this might be a ProStandards issue, or, one of simple common sense, but NO open time. Don't do it. On this subject, it is not just a matter of business; the folks out on the street are pilots. No one will take care of pilots but pilots.


With regards to the company, I don't see how they could have handled it any better. It sucks, but realistically, how could this have been handled any better? Credit where credit is due.

not that I disagree with the open time argument but if you feel it was handled as well as it could have been, why the problem with others picking up open time? seems a little contradictory

 

[outtahere]

The fact that somebody at ASA sitting in the left seat saying they can't afford 50 bucks a month is rediculous. No one is required to help out anyone, but if you won't, don't show the world how cheap you are by saying you can't afford $50.00.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

The fact that somebody at ASA sitting in the left seat saying they can't afford 50 bucks a month is rediculous. No one is required to help out anyone, but if you won't, don't show the world how cheap you are by saying you can't afford $50.00.

So sorry if I'm cheap to you. Do you have a wife and kids, house payment, credit cards, etc etc...Sorry if you are so rich, maybe if you are so much better off than me perhaps you can pay my $50 and make everyone happy.

 

[BrickTop]

Many of us know it's only a matter of time before Skywest makes history on its record of "Never Furloughed." When in the history of aviation has an airline asked for reduced schedules, voluntary furloughs, part time employment, and halted indirect furloughs as a result. It hasn't. We know in 35 years of SkyWest's history it has never been "THIS BAD." Why can't we just communicate in a matter that helps not hinders morale and at minimum helps people plan their lives. If we are 500 pilots overstaffed a ballpark estimate would require 1000 pilots accepting part time employment. Not practical. With the cash reserves Skywest Inc has, 80 pilots is easily funded over the course of this recession or in contrast just the indication of a much bigger problem that CANNOT be funded furloughing "ONLY" 80 pilots.

I hope I am wrong......

 

[flynryan15]

PA44,

I want to be sure that my money is going to something of value and is accountable in the end.

What my bar tab and lap dances are not valuable? Sheesh cheap pilots! :laugh:

 

[white knuckle]

Does ALPA do anything in the form of information for these guys and girls, I haven't seen anything from the Union. Guess they are just waking up.

Well said. Not bashing, but I am disappointed that there wasn't anything from ALPA on this coming up. Yes the writing was on the wall from what was going on with the company but nothing much from ALPA except "save your money". There wasn't anything on additional airplanes being added either, before the company announced them. However we have gotten several e-mails on the subject of PBS. It seems most resources are on that.

Good luck to the 80 pilots and everyones thoughts are with you.

 

[sweptback]

Well said. Not bashing, but I am disappointed that there wasn't anything from ALPA on this coming up. Yes the writing was on the wall from what was going on with the company but nothing much from ALPA except "save your money". There wasn't anything on additional airplanes being added either, before the company announced them. However we have gotten several e-mails on the subject of PBS. It seems most resources are on that.

Good luck to the 80 pilots and everyones thoughts are with you.

How would ALPA know about furloughs or new aircraft before the company announced it?

There were several connection emails I remember talking about how we were 200-300 pilots overstaffed. It doesn't take much to connect the dots...