Asa Cancels 10-20 Flts Aday=no Crew

[scarlet]

ASA is cancelling 10-20 flights a day for lack of CREWS.. READ morning reports off of myasa...

They are extending us and punishing us for their lack of planning.. Would it be funny if they had alot of sick calls too this month....

Settle the contract ASA and we might come to work PROUD!!

off myasa ASA BREAKS RECORD boarding record---AGAIN..??

BUT employees get nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WWEfan]

This really burns me up too. myASA boasts record after record for boardings and Skip is always patting us on the back for our performance in his weekly update. Hey, Skip, why don't you spend less time writing updates and PROVE how much you appreciate us. Contract now!

 

[777_Jackpot]

Morning Reports?

Scarlet,

I am sitting here on my nice airport appreciation break and can't seem to find the morning reports section on MYASA. Any chance of getting directions or a link. Appreciate it.

777JP

 

[scarlet]

on main page on the far left OPS SUMMARY

FULL ops report available here click on it and it gives you alot of options

click on morning reports and then click like last thursday...

 

[777_Jackpot]

Appreciate it

 

[scarlet]

WE have ONE yes ONE reserve F.O> this month on the 70 seater-if you guys missed that and that is b/c he bid it....

 

[777_Jackpot]

Is that in ATL or SLC?

777JP

 

[psysicx]

You would think that it wouldn't be hard to find people when the mins are 600 hrs. Plus it doesn't seem like a bad place to work. How senior is SLC?

 

[uncle]

Scarlet & WWEfan,

As long as you guys are busting your butts to cover the company's mistakes, why would the co. be in such a rush to hire more people? Skip is getting the performance numbers he needs. You aren't giving him a reason to hire more pilots. Take the time to do your job in an appropriate and professional manner. If this means flights leave late, then that's the price to co. pays for not properly staffing the pilot group.

I'm not bashing your efforts to be good employees and provide your passengers the service they deserve. I was the same way the first few months at Comair. After speaking with a few wise captains, I sat back, took off my pilots hat and put on my management hat. I had the same gripes you have. As long as I bust my butt to cover the company's mistake, why would it hire more pilots? When appropriate, let the co. see where there is a problem(improper staffing, plane changes...) by late departures, arrivals, cancelled flights, missed DHs, etc. Just make sure your reasons are justified. (Knock on wood)This has worked for me many times. Never had a problem, but was always prepared to justify the reason.

 

[MedFlyer]

This really burns me up too. myASA boasts record after record for boardings and Skip is always patting us on the back for our performance in his weekly update. Hey, Skip, why don't you spend less time writing updates and PROVE how much you appreciate us. Contract now!

Not to throw a turd in the punch bowl, but record boarding really don't mean anything. ASA could have record boardings, but if those passengers are being flown at a loss, then it really doesn't matter.

As for your contract, ASA's management has little control. You'll get your contract when Ma' Delta is good and ready. Right now, Ma' Delta has bigger problems...like a looming bankruptcy.

 

[Crash Pad]

Record boardings... Really we're putting on an aircraft a month... Imagine you board more passengers when you fly more airplanes... I'm not sure you still see the exponential growth in profit...

Hiring... Last I heard they are pumping through 30 and change a month which is about all the training department can handle... Call it poor planning I call it a great problem to have because if we do get sold furlough buffers might be handy.

70 Seater reserve... No worries I got my build up line and they gave me all the open time... 52 hours... and 7 days of reserve for the month. 52 hours doesn't sound like a massive staffing short fall but again I don't work in ops.

IMO we can burn the place down... Run operationally horrible. I have a hunch they still would only be able to run 30 to 40 a month and you would only be screwing your fellow pilots as they will get extended to cover your mess.

Last I checked we work for a broke as$ parent company that is going to need to sell ASA eventually... Comair... same deal. Big D lost $500,000 an hour last quarter and 1,000,000 an hour the quarter before that... In short soon we will have some real b!tching to do when we fight to not get stapled, furloughed, pay cut etc...

In short "Keep your head on a swivel because that's what you have to do when you are in a vicious c%ck fight"

 

[scarlet]

OK BIG MAMA DL has lost 400-900 million dollars a quarter (4 quarters a year) THAT is alot of money...Could you run your business that way and still be in business 5 years later NO !!!!

DL pilots take a huge pay cut--they can not settle our contract--and in JAN..they slashed PRICES-----they learned that in GRAD school!!!! Wished they could run my business, to stay in it that long...

"Record boardings... Really we're putting on an aircraft a month... Imagine you board more passengers when you fly more airplanes... I'm not sure you still see the exponential growth in profit..."

Oh so Southwest plan is wrong....uummmhhh

LEts see Comair can pay their pilots more, treat them better, LITTLE HORIZON out for Alaska can pay more....BUT NOT ASA flying all over the country, ever see Horizon out here.....NO...

 

[Tomct]

You are right Scarlet! Screw Em!! It is time to roll out the red carpet before we let Ma D really have it by going on strike!! If they have enough money to support the "Gay Parade," then they can drop some cash this way! I am tired of hearing all these reasons WHY we should not get a raise, but you don't see any discretion in their monetary spending on other SH@T! New Contract ALREADY!!!

 

[Popeye0537]

What about Mesa, Scarlet? How much do you think Comair is willing to pay their pilots now tha Ma Delta has been infected also???

 

[Crash Pad]

I won't compare southwest to ASA for several reasons. While the Southwest model works the Northwest, UAL, DAL, CAL, Eastern, Braniff, TWA, and American model seem to be struggling.

Horizon... Great company... Know a couple of people who work there. I'm not sure getting paid a few bucks an hour more in exchange for a 10 year upgrade is worth it. Same story at comair. Not putting a plane on the property for three years doesn't help you out in the long run.

I agree with the sentiment. Quite frankly I know I'm worth 1,000 dollars an hour. A five dollar raise that puts upgrade five years away doesn't seem like a good trade. I'm sure Captains would disagree. I still have hopes and dreams of shopping that PIC turbine around and seeing what I can get on the free agency market.

All I am saying is I think management is trying. I still believe that nobody in ops wakes up in the morning and says "Ok it's 8 AM how can we screw the pilots... Hurry up I've got a 9 AM meeting on screwing the rampers." Do they drag out the contract talks YES because that is what I would do if I ran a company. I get the same product for more money if I settle quick. If I thought paying the pilots five bucks more and giving them more time off and a blow job after every leg would make more money and stop me from canceling flights then I would do it. I think we owe it to them to try our hardest so the team acheves a goal. Usually money in capitalism follows the most efficient operation. (Southwest model)
I'm not saying rollover and play dead. Pay your union dues. They negotiate in good faith and go on strike when it comes to that.

 

[scarlet]

I was comparing ASA to Southwest--you said that getting airplanes and growing all the time is not neccessary going to work out to make more money...

 

[scarlet]

sorry meant to say I was not Comparing the two

 

[atrdriver]

All I am saying is I think management is trying. I still believe that nobody in ops wakes up in the morning and says "Ok it's 8 AM how can we screw the pilots... Hurry up I've got a 9 AM meeting on screwing the rampers." Do they drag out the contract talks YES because that is what I would do if I ran a company. I get the same product for more money if I settle quick. If I thought paying the pilots five bucks more and giving them more time off and a blow job after every leg would make more money and stop me from canceling flights then I would do it. I think we owe it to them to try our hardest so the team acheves a goal. Usually money in capitalism follows the most efficient operation. (Southwest model)
I'm not saying rollover and play dead. Pay your union dues. They negotiate in good faith and go on strike when it comes to that.

Or, the company could settle the outstanding contracts, treat the employees with a little respect and dignity, and have employee groups that are happy to be at work and taking care of the problems that crop up, rather than employees that don't really care what happens because they feel that ton company doesn't care. SWA made it to where they are in large part by taking care of their people. No other airline seems to be able to figure out what a huge difference that can make. Employee morale is a huge factor in any type of business, but because the bean counters can't show a direct effect on the bottom line management won't try to improve it.

 

[scarlet]

thank you--NEW CONCEPT in the old airline industry

SHOW them how it is done JetBlue

 

[Palerider957]

Not to throw a turd in the punch bowl, but record boarding really don't mean anything. ASA could have record boardings, but if those passengers are being flown at a loss, then it really doesn't matter.

As for your contract, ASA's management has little control. You'll get your contract when Ma' Delta is good and ready. Right now, Ma' Delta has bigger problems...like a looming bankruptcy.

Well said, and completely correct.

 

[Palerider957]

Or, the company could settle the outstanding contracts, treat the employees with a little respect and dignity, and have employee groups that are happy to be at work and taking care of the problems that crop up, rather than employees that don't really care what happens because they feel that ton company doesn't care. SWA made it to where they are in large part by taking care of their people. No other airline seems to be able to figure out what a huge difference that can make. Employee morale is a huge factor in any type of business, but because the bean counters can't show a direct effect on the bottom line management won't try to improve it.

ASA has always had an agtagonistic relationship with it's employees, it's the only way they know how to opperate. Once you come to work here, (especiallya s a pilot) you are the enemy, and will be treated as such. They WANT to drive you away after a few years and replace you with a cheaper employee.....career employees are NOT valued, and NOT welcomed.....go away.

 

[Tomct]

Crashpad: You are not really thinking this through! Where do you think that you are going to go? Very few people are hiring and if your not ex-mil or have given "Head" to someone in HR somewhere, you are not going anywhere either!! We need to get a large raise, better quality of life, and more control over our Sched. That's just to start, and don't forget about the 100% BACKPAY!!!!!Yeah, I know about the mgnt. game of dragging it out, but enough is enough! Why would you want to do it to the detriment of your company? You have two very important groups (pilots/FA) in negotiations right now and we are not happy!! They need to get off their ASSES (...hey, what do you know, you really can say ASS....hee....hee) and get us WHAT IS OWED TO US!!!
We should all be very PISSED right now!
If they were smart, they would get things rolling right along, because I believe that we have all had enough!

 

[scarlet]

Everyone start using your sick time!!!!!!!!!

FLY SAFE---I've noticed a increase in write ups---

Burn those lights--Burn that APU..

They pay 1.5 because they are short--well people would come to work and they could save that money and more people would apply here if it was settled--You wants to work here, long up grade, no pay raise in sight, pilots hate their company right now....might be why people are going to COEX. Chaq.???

 

[FlyAuburn]

Everyone start using your sick time!!!!!!!!!

FLY SAFE---I've noticed a increase in write ups---

Burn those lights--Burn that APU..

yeah, write it up!

 

[cforst513]

Not to throw a turd in the punch bowl, but...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!

 

[Plug]

I won't compare southwest to ASA for several reasons. While the Southwest model works the Northwest, UAL, DAL, CAL, Eastern, Braniff, TWA, and American model seem to be struggling.

Horizon... Great company... Know a couple of people who work there. I'm not sure getting paid a few bucks an hour more in exchange for a 10 year upgrade is worth it. Same story at comair. Not putting a plane on the property for three years doesn't help you out in the long run.

I agree with the sentiment. Quite frankly I know I'm worth 1,000 dollars an hour. A five dollar raise that puts upgrade five years away doesn't seem like a good trade. I'm sure Captains would disagree. I still have hopes and dreams of shopping that PIC turbine around and seeing what I can get on the free agency market.

All I am saying is I think management is trying. I still believe that nobody in ops wakes up in the morning and says "Ok it's 8 AM how can we screw the pilots... Hurry up I've got a 9 AM meeting on screwing the rampers." Do they drag out the contract talks YES because that is what I would do if I ran a company. I get the same product for more money if I settle quick. If I thought paying the pilots five bucks more and giving them more time off and a blow job after every leg would make more money and stop me from canceling flights then I would do it. I think we owe it to them to try our hardest so the team acheves a goal. Usually money in capitalism follows the most efficient operation. (Southwest model)
I'm not saying rollover and play dead. Pay your union dues. They negotiate in good faith and go on strike when it comes to that.

Crash Pad,

In theory your way of thinking would be correct, but history proves otherwise! ASA management is a puppet show, just like CMR management, real management comes from the "VA Ave. Kremlin." An example of this is the new wt. & bal. issues we will face towards the end of the summer. If we don't have a more precise way of calculating CG then PAX wt. will go up yet again. We have the PDA all set up and ready to go, we just need a check from DAL for $270,000 written out to Dell for the PDA's. The savings the PDA will bring would cover the cost in 6 months under normal conditions, 4 months if using contaminated, etc. DAL won't part with the cash though, somewhat understandable. ASA has record boardings, and just about every flight I do is 3/4 full or greater. ASA is probably making money, so why do we need DAL's OK and $$$ for the PDA's? It is going to be front line employees dealing with all the BS because our max is 25 and 30 with 7000 lbs. of fuel to go SDF from ATL. If there were no fix then you find one, we have a fix but can't shell out $270,000 for it, shows who the boss is in my book.

Parlay this in to labor situations. History tells us that DAL is willing to stonewall it's DCI labor groups. CMR struck for 89 days which cost DAL over double what the CMR pilots were seeking in a 4 year deal. So yeah, I think there are few goobers over there at the GO like CT and TH (puppets of Ford & Harrison) who relish in the opportunity to f*ck us any time they can, I dare say the "mother ship" probably compensates these 2 failed abortions quite well for their efforts.

My $.02 anyway.

Cheers

 

[Oakum_Boy]

What good is giving the gate a max of 45.6 passengers and 58.3 bags, from a PDA software program, when the gate will always board more anyway. There is major touble in ATL and most other stations regarding max payloads. It shows up on the release, you can call it in, you can do whatever. The bottom line is that ASA can't run a smooth operation to save their lives, and $270,000 will do nothing. A huge waste of money, and Delta is spot on in denying that expenditure. You can come up with the best technology on the market, but ASA will find a way to cancel out all the positive effects. ASA has people problems and thats it. Just have a look around next time you are at the gate, on the ramp, talking with your dispatcher, or whatever. Its a mickey mouse operation, and that will never change. Just fly by the book, and let yourself be entertained by the ASA circus...

 

[~~~^~~~]

Crash Pad,

The savings the PDA will bring would cover the cost in 6 months under normal conditions, 4 months if using contaminated, etc.

I don't dispute your numbers, but how would a PDA save us all this money? The Dispatchers should look at loads and adjust fuel accordingly. We also have cornerstone on the gate's computers, so we should be able to perform load calculations just like big D. I was told the reason we do not employ this tool is that the Company does not trust the gate agents to do it correctly ( no kidding, they don't know the number of pax on the airplane 1 out of 5 times ). I'm just wondering why we do not use the tools we already have - or hire people with smarts enough to put the numbers into cornerstone.

I run a simple weight spreadsheet in my PDA to help figure up max loads for the gate. It is useful when bringing carry on luggage back to the cabin to meet the weight requirements and has saved many a nonrev and jumpseater from being left behind.

I know nothing about the Company's PDA idea, tell us more.

If we were park on D, near Starbucks, we could send times over the network and avoid the dreaded "call crew scheduling" reply.

~~~^~~~

 

[flying mexican]

OK people, quit the bitching and help me get a "F...ing" job!
I have send my resume to those "F...ers" like 30 times and no response, I have enough time to get on with them however the seem to dislike Mexican"
Can any body give me an Idea here? How about you scarlet?

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

OK people, quit the bitching and help me get a "F...ing" job!
I have send my resume to those "F...ers" like 30 times and no response, I have enough time to get on with them however the seem to dislike Mexican"
Can any body give me an Idea here? How about you scarlet?

How about you get a clue! Getting an airline job is more about attitude than about time. Seems like you are lacking in both areas.