ASA.....almost paperless!

[DoinTime]

We have been using ACARS and remote weight and balance data in the CRJ for about 8 years at PCL. Its nice not to have to do it yourself but the reliability of the system is in the hands of the gate agent that enters the passenger count and the rampers that put in the bag counts. Until those are in you can't get your data.

The ones to suffer with the automated system are your jumpseaters in close call situations. Its tough to argue with a machine when you are trying to get one more on. Inevitably, when you need to make up some time to connect on your commute home you'll have to wait 30 minutes for your ramper to get off of break and enter the numbers too.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

It's all real time via Aerodata. If it's anything like the TLR system now you get a response in about 5 seconds.

It is the same. The only annoying thing is the "Selcal" aural on the 200 after you send the data...

 

[ASA_Aviator]

We have been using ACARS and remote weight and balance data in the CRJ for about 8 years at PCL. Its nice not to have to do it yourself but the reliability of the system is in the hands of the gate agent that enters the passenger count and the rampers that put in the bag counts. Until those are in you can't get your data.

The ones to suffer with the automated system are your jumpseaters in close call situations. Its tough to argue with a machine when you are trying to get one more on. Inevitably, when you need to make up some time to connect on your commute home you'll have to wait 30 minutes for your ramper to get off of break and enter the numbers too.

We still have some flexibility. The fuel number is not auto-populated from the FMS, so if you "know" that you'll burn down a few pounds of fuel with the APU before you push back...you could enter a different fuel number than what is showing on the fuel gauge.

 

[coorsFlight]

dammit i still cant find the acars on my ATR. it must be near the FMS

 

[centralpilot]

dammit i still cant find the acars on my ATR. it must be near the FMS

Yeah, it'll be December before ASA is actually "paperless"

 

[amcnd]

Aerodata is pretty good. Just be patient on the 200, it takes a couple of minutes to fill in all the blanks. On the 700, it is almost instantaneous.

The 700/900 has digital com's.. Thats why they are faster..

 

[WalterSobchak]

Eh, disregard...I don't need to open that can of worms.

 

[79%N1]

We have been using ACARS and remote weight and balance data in the CRJ for about 8 years at PCL. Its nice not to have to do it yourself but the reliability of the system is in the hands of the gate agent that enters the passenger count and the rampers that put in the bag counts. Until those are in you can't get your data.

That is not the system ASA is using. You still get the pax and bags counts from the agents handed to the flight deck, the crew inputs the numbers into the ACARS, and sends to AeroData.

 

[wms]

After you get the paperwork from the ramp it's a 20 second process. Even on the -200.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Any word on how things are going with the SkyWest-ization of ASA today?