Are these DAL MD-90s on the way?

[jonjuan]

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-skymiles/1105611-cz-sold-13-md90-delta.html

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

They are bought and will all be deployed by Spring 2011.

Loose rumor that DL in talks with Saudia over the 28 that they have, apparently Saudia wants all purchased in one transaction but releasing them little by little.......heard from a heavy MX planner. Not sure if I would agree to that either unless the costs were low.

 

[gangdev]

I have seen a handful of China Eastern MD-90s in GSO in front of the paint shop... I heard they are getting the DAL livery.

 

[crj567]

They are bought and will all be deployed by Spring 2011.

Loose rumor that DL in talks with Saudia over the 28 that they have, apparently Saudia wants all purchased in one transaction but releasing them little by little.......heard from a heavy MX planner. Not sure if I would agree to that either unless the costs were low.

I heard from a heavy MX planner that Lumberg needs a baseball bat vs skull conference... Must be fact!

 

[Old School 737]

What is so great about the MD90? Are they getting them for next to nothing? Just wondering what are the numbers compared to the 737-800?

 

[Who Dey]

From the Delta North training department I heard they are geting 4 Md90 for the price of 1 737.

 

[jonjuan]

What is so great about the MD90? Are they getting them for next to nothing? Just wondering what are the numbers compared to the 737-800?

They are cheap, cheap because they are old (well, if you consider 10-15 years as old). 37-800s are much more expensive.

 

[Lynxman]

We all know the MD90 is more BA than any 737.

 

[Old School 737]

We all know the MD90 is more BA than any 737.

Do you have seating numbers, fuel burn / performance numbers? Just wondering?

 

[Lynxman]

No clue I'm basing it off personal preference.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

The MD-90 is actually more efficient on a 400nm or greater segment length. Add to it that the acquisition costs are less than 1/4 of a new 73NG, it makes a ton of sense to purchase these jets for use until the next gen 73N hits the market. Read, it is a good interim solution without the enormous capital outlay of 50+ 73N's. There will be an order for a new technology jet and not 30 y/o technology.

 

[Lynxman]

Plus like I said its BA lol.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

I heard from a heavy MX planner that Lumberg needs a baseball bat vs skull conference... Must be fact!

I heard from a heavy MX planner that crj567's mom has been ridden harder than Seattle Slew!

 

[crj567]

I heard from a heavy MX planner that crj567's mom has been ridden harder than Seattle Slew!

At least my mom is not Seattle Slew!

Smoochie Boochies!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

DAL has said in numerous press releases that the MD-90 is by FAR their lowest seat-mile cost of ANY of their narrow body jets, so they want as many as possible. They were planning on acquiring 74 of them, but that was WITHOUT the Saudia jets...so could be as many as 102. Boeing should have kept the 717 line open, and added the 717-200 as AirTran wanted. Now they will be getting their 737 ass kicked by Bombardier's "C"!

 

[moonship]

There have been 6 or 7 MD-90's sitting at TIMCO in GSO for the past 6 plus months. Some China Southern and the others were HELLO airlines. They have started to get them into the hanger, a few a month. They are coming out in Delta colors.

 

[another cfii]

The MD90 we have now seats 150, but all will be re-configured to 160 soon. Comparing to the MD88, it has increased ZFW by 12k, max t/o weight increased by approx 11k. Fuel burn is slightly better than the MD88, around 3.5k per side crz at FL32 or so (Our usual cruising alt). Comparing to the MD88, it actually cruises at a lower alt, and the range isn't as great as the 88, but it hauls more pax+cargo, which makes it cost effective.

On another note, the MD88 will be soon configured to 149 as well.

 

[dicko]

The MD90 we have now seats 150, but all will be re-configured to 160 soon. Comparing to the MD88, it has increased ZFW by 12k, max t/o weight increased by approx 11k. Fuel burn is slightly better than the MD88, around 3.5k per side crz at FL32 or so (Our usual cruising alt). Comparing to the MD88, it actually cruises at a lower alt, and the range isn't as great as the 88, but it hauls more pax+cargo, which makes it cost effective.

On another note, the MD88 will be soon configured to 149 as well.

I know I must be missing something here:

The 737-700 burns around 2.2K to 2.4K per hour/per side with 137 pax. 737-800 will be :erm: configured for 160 pax. I'm assuming its burn will be slightly higher.

Given the MD90 is burning around 2000 PPH more fuel; how can it be more efficient ?

Just curious. I'm not playing 'my airplanes better than yours'.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Acquisition costs.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Any plans to enlarge the overhead bins on the 90s? Last one I was on had the same "short" bins on both sides of the aisle, filled up awfully fast. I think there must have been at least twenty of us who had to plane-side check our bags. I don't believe that would have happened on an MD88.