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APDL Palm emulator for the Iphone/Palm Pre

crash312

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I'm looking at either the Iphone or Palm Pre, but use APDL (Airline Pilot Daily Log) electronic logbook and don't want to switch. The APDL people are saying they might have Iphone or Pre versions at some point but I can't wait, my treo just broke.

Is there anybody that has an Iphone with the styletap emulator or the Pre with the Motionapps Classic emulators and are able to fully use the APDL including importing trips from FLICA?

If not does, the Iphone have any log programs that can import from Flica or Crewtrac?

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Palm offers a Palm OS for the Palm Pre. (The Pre runs on WebOS) So I'm guessing ADPL will work.

Anyone tried CrewTrac with the Pre yet?
 

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I have a Blackberry so no APDL for me (grrrr) but as for CrewTrac this browser works with almost all of it and it runs on all phone platforms. It is free.

http://www.boltbrowser.com
 

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Web OS is a whole different ball game. The classic emulator will let you run APDL but from what I understand you no longer have the ability to sync the log with Logbook Pro. Not sure if you can even import schedules either. I haven't tried it yet. My new Pre is nothing more than an expensive paperweight right now. I am waiting for a new shipment to get it replaced.
What I was going to do was pick up a cheap used palm pilot off ebay and just leave it in my flight bag just to run ADPL. That way I am not stuck to a phone that supports ADPL.
 

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What I was going to do was pick up a cheap used palm pilot off ebay and just leave it in my flight bag just to run ADPL. That way I am not stuck to a phone that supports ADPL.

Easiest, least stress free way. Take it home once a month to sync up and download the schedules.
 

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What I was going to do was pick up a cheap used palm pilot off ebay and just leave it in my flight bag just to run ADPL. That way I am not stuck to a phone that supports ADPL.

I was thinking the same thing too but was hoping APDL would be able to run with the emulator. If you get it to run let me know. If it doesn't I'm back to the Iphone vs. Pre dilemna.
 

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Easiest, least stress free way. Take it home once a month to sync up and download the schedules.


Bingo!

That's exactly what I do. Easiest and cheapest way to keep logbook pro and have the phone you want.
 

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The logbook pro / APDL is so outdated its not even funny. The program is virtually the same as it was several years ago. The mobile version is clunky, and not user friendly. The computer based software feels like an access database (which it basically is). Not to slam the authors, it was great when it came out... but is so outdated now.

I am developing an airline logbook app for pre. it will sync automatically over a web based version, to hold your logbook info online.
 

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sounds good...are you going to have the ability to import schedules from flica or crewtrac? keep us updated, i'm sure i'm not the only one looking.
 

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Was hoping by now someone would have one and have tried the APDL...no luck. It would certainly make the decision easier. For now I bought a used treo on ebay since mine broke. Think I'll wait to see if the apps for the Pre actually appear as promised.
 

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I'm holding off on the pre til some of the bugs are worked out.

Anyone here have it? How's it holding up to the airline rigors?
 

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I'm holding off on the pre til some of the bugs are worked out.

Anyone here have it? How's it holding up to the airline rigors?


My sentiments as well. The phone looks promising but I would like to see how it holds up over the next 6 months or so.
 

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I got the Pre today. I like it so far, although it does seem to be having battery issues.

As far as running APDL...

You can install the Classic App (which is free for 7 days and then costs $30) and then install APDL on top of that. That worked fine.

As far as syncing... To up sync your trips you have to create the .prc file through the APDL Scheduling Importer and then use the USB transfer on the Pre to copy it to the Classic App installer directory. Then, in theory, it should import the trip into the APDL program. It didn't work when I tried it, but I only tried it once and didn't do any troubleshooting. I have no idea how to sync back into Logbook Pro.

A thing of note though... APDL was designed for a stylus. A lot of the buttons and click points are WAY too small to consistantly hit with your finger. It almost seems to me that it will be more trouble than it's worth.

If somebody can develope a native Pre app that has the ability to import trips from CrewTrack/Flica and then dump the times back into LBP, I would dump APDL in a heartbeat. For now, I'm just going to carry around my old Treo in my flightcase and use it as a PDA with no phone signal so I can still use APDL on it.
 

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Thanks for the info. Keep us updated about your experience with the Pre.

As for no stylus, many times I just use the click button on my pen. Particularly if I already have the pen in my hand.
 

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As for no stylus, many times I just use the click button on my pen. Particularly if I already have the pen in my hand.

Me too... Or just my fingernail, assuming I hadn't bitten it off worrying about my FO's next landing.

However, the touchscreen on the Pre *seems* to be a lot less sensitive to location. I did try using the stylus from my Treo755 when running APDL on the ClassicApp and it didn't work very well.
 

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How does the Pre browser interface with CrewTrac? Does it display the "View Schedule" link?
 

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I just bought a ipod touch and bought the fly schedule program. Works pretty well I feel ur pain about palm phone issue, I replaced 3 palms in less than 6months...lost all contacts and flight hrs. I can watch movies and play games without phone battery issues. Although I am still getting used to the keyboard as u can probably see, I am happy with it so far. I love Apple products but a sprint customer.
 

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I just bought a ipod touch and bought the fly schedule program. Works pretty well I feel ur pain about palm phone issue, I replaced 3 palms in less than 6months...lost all contacts and flight hrs. I can watch movies and play games without phone battery issues. Although I am still getting used to the keyboard as u can probably see, I am happy with it so far. I love Apple products but a sprint customer.

I considered the same thing until during a family reunion over Thanksgiving. My brother has an I Phone and he let me try it for a hour or more. It only took me about 10 minutes to decide that I didn't care for the touch screen keyboard and prefer an actual keyboard with buttons. Maybe I would have gotten used to it but that 1st and only experience convinced me not to get one.
 
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