Anyone get a call from Frontier

[Boondock Saint]

What kind of PIC time did you guys have that got calls? tt? thanks! Frontier is one of my career aspirations.

 

[M3pilot]

Thanks jetalc!

Regarding competitive times, from what I can gather Frontier isn't placing so much weight on flight times as they are recommendations. They figure if you have their mins that you can fly a plane, but no amount of flight time can guarantee that you can get along in the cockpit for 3 hours, 30 days or 30 years...

Best of luck,

M3

Boondock, I had around 3100 tt and 1500 PIC

 

[Jetsi]

They figure if you have their mins that you can fly a plane, but no amount of flight time can guarantee that you can get along in the cockpit for 3 hours, 30 days or 30 years...

That is hitting the nail on the head. The interview goal was the same when I was hired, but some were able to slip through the cracks. This new interview method should help prevent this in the future.

So, assuming 10 are interviewing Nov. 15, another 80 plus interviews minimum and hiring still need to be done. Be optimistic, your call will come.

Jetsi

 

[Stealthh21]

Hey Jetsi,

That sounds about right. A few weeks ago they talked about 107 with 10 every two weeks to the end of the year. Then 10 a month. Only they said something like 30 in the pool. Isabelle's a great source and very cool! I'll post anything I learn from the interview after Tuesday. So far it looks like I'm the only one posting with an interview but there have to be more of us out there. If so, feel free to join in.

Thanks for keeping the thread on point.

M3

PS, hard not to have the butterflies... dream job!

So how long have you been interested in Aviation? Did you always want to work for a LCC? You must be very happy, as much as it takes to get on with the airlines now.

good luck!

 

[M3pilot]

I've been interested in aviation since I can remember, but really I started getting serious about it after graduating from high school. The first time I ever flew on a commercial flight was with the old Frontier. Obviously since they're based in DEN it makes it very desireable, but knowing several people who work there has given me a lot of insight as to how great of a culture they've created. I don't know anyone who works there who doesn't love it. I guess that's a benefit of not being a huge airline but I know they work awful hard at it too. So, categorically I don't know if LCCs are something I've always desired to be a part of so much as a place that is fun, has a great culture, and is rewarding. For me, F9 is that airline. Heck, even if they don't pick me up I'll still be a lifelong customer. They've always treated me right as a passenger and I think that's reflective of how the employees are treated. Who wouldn't want to be a part of that? I'm happy now, and quite sure I'd be happy working for them.

Best of luck to you too!

M3

 

[skibanditxx]

M3,

So how did it go yesterday? How many interviewed? What were thier backgrounds, etc. Any news for those of us waiting for the call?
thanks,

bandit

 

[M3pilot]

bandit,

It went well, very well. I can't tell you what a class act the folks are at F9. I have to go fly but I'll post more later. Overall, when they tell you to RELAX and BE YOURSELF, they mean it. They also make it comfortable for you to do so - no tricks so take advantage of it. There were 9 of us interviewed - 1 military, 8 regional/national/cargo. All great folks it seemed like. I couldn't tell you exactly when they're going to interview again, but my guess is next month or January at the latest. Hang in there - F9 is WELL worth the wait. No matter the outcome, I have to say it was a wonderful experience. Best of luck to all,

M3

 

[RJDC]

What about sueing them if they won't call you for an interview?

 

[skibanditxx]

M3,

Thanks for the quick reply. Sounds like a pretty laid back interview. I can't wait to hear more.

Congrats,
Bandit

 

[wrxpilot]

Heck, even if they don't pick me up I'll still be a lifelong customer. They've always treated me right as a passenger and I think that's reflective of how the employees are treated. Who wouldn't want to be a part of that? I'm happy now, and quite sure I'd be happy working for them.

Best of luck to you too!

M3

So true M3, they are a great customer service airline. As a Colorado person, I'm loyal. Out of the numerous airline flights I've had they have the best customer service, entertainment options, and pricing. They also have the routes I use (FLL, DEN, SFO, Northwest). I had to pay a little extra to home from FLL next week, but it's worth it to me.

 

[M3pilot]

I'm serious, these guys just want to get to know you. They also want you to get to know them to see if you're a fit for each other. It's equally important. If I had one piece of advice, it would be to TRUST them. If they tell you to relax and take off your coat, do it if you feel like it. Ask them questions. Treat them like a friend because they darn sure treat you like one. If you're uptight and stand-offish, it'll show. If you're faking it, that'll probably show too. Seriously, the AIM and some FARs wouldn't be a bad place to study a bit, and know yourself. Also, think about your leadership style and your CRM, decision making, etc. Those are marks of airmanship anyway so if you have it, you already know. Just show them you do. Sounds like another interview round or two in December. Keep after it - they're a world-class organization and ignore the naysayers (they are few). Best of luck to all,

M3

 

[QRC]

I'm serious, these guys just want to get to know you. They also want you to get to know them to see if you're a fit for each other. It's equally important. If I had one piece of advice, it would be to TRUST them. If they tell you to relax and take off your coat, do it if you feel like it. Ask them questions. Treat them like a friend because they darn sure treat you like one. If you're uptight and stand-offish, it'll show. If you're faking it, that'll probably show too. Seriously, the AIM and some FARs wouldn't be a bad place to study a bit, and know yourself. Also, think about your leadership style and your CRM, decision making, etc. Those are marks of airmanship anyway so if you have it, you already know. Just show them you do. Sounds like another interview round or two in December. Keep after it - they're a world-class organization and ignore the naysayers (they are few). Best of luck to all,

M3

Thanks for all the info. Did they say when they'd let you know and what class they're hiring for?

 

[M3pilot]

Yeah, they said 7-10 days. The call came a little earlier than that though!!! You know that feeling you get when your dream comes true? Now I do...

They filled what was left of the December class with a couple of us and early January looks like where they'll start the rest.

Sorry if I don't have the words; I'm still in shock... This is truly a wonderful organization!

M3

 

[Jetsi]

M3pilot,

Congratulations!!!!!!

I remember the "shock" when I got hired. Great feeling, isn't it.

Go out and celebrate, you earned it. Welcome to the Zoo Crew.

Jetsi

 

[M3pilot]

Thanks Jetsi, I'm thrilled. Can't wait to come aboard and get started!

M3

 

[QRC]

Thanks Jetsi, I'm thrilled. Can't wait to come aboard and get started!

M3

Congratulations!

 

[skibanditxx]

[Sorry if I don't have the words; I'm still in shock... This is truly a wonderful organization!

M3[/quote]

M3,

Many Congrats!! When you finally come down from your well deserved high, could you fill us in on the nity grity:

1) How long since you first applied?
2) How frequently did you update?
3) How many internal recs did you have?
4) Any other details about the process you can share?

Thanks,
bandit

 

[M3pilot]

QRC, thanks!

bandit, here you go:

1. i first applied in august so around 2.5 months-ish
2. i updated at least once a week, depending how much i flew
3. i had 8 recs. i think 1 will get you in the door, but none won't.
4. be yourself, smile, be sincere, use good crm and be decisive, know some general part 91 and AIM, recall some stories: situation-action-result but remember to explain the positive in every experience you mention!

5. have fun! i know it's easier said than done, but if an interview process can be fun, this is the company that can and will make it happen. remember, no lone rangers - get to know and encourage each other. of course, if you aren't normally that way it will probably show. just highlight your best qualities in the way you conduct yourself and show a sincere desire to be there.
6. good luck! (or the good Lord's providence)

M3

 

[Big Duke Six]

Welcome aboard M3!

EIGHT recs?! Sounds like you were already part of the family....

Looking forward to seeing you on the line!

 

[F9 Driver]

Welcome M3!

Keep the great attitude, have fun in training, and I'll see you on line.

For those going thru the interview read M3's reply to Bandit. Its spot on.

Good luck!

 

[M3pilot]

Thanks both of you. I'm thrilled to be aboard. I look forward to seeing you there!

M3

 

[jetalc]

Holy Cow! Eight recs? That can hurt the ol' checkbook! :nuts:

Congrats - glad to have you with us. I think you'll enjoy it!

 

[Kane]

What up T?

 

[starchkr]

Congrats M3...good luck and have fun...

Sure wish i was one...I still have time though...


Hey, how about slipping me one of those recs... lots of beer would follow--->:beer:

 

[M3pilot]

Yeah, I got pretty lucky. starchkr hang in there - how long have you had your stuff in? They will be hiring for a while so keep after it. If I hear anything else in the meantime, I'll let you know but keep updating; they'll be interviewing a couple more times next month. I actually told one of my recs that he could give it to someone else since I already had several so maybe they can be "relinquished". No beer required, but I'd celebrate with you if you got on!

M3

 

[Kane]

Can anyone give an update on the new interview process? Looks like I will be there on the 1st of Dec.

 

[M3pilot]

Well, I hate to say it, but they did tell us that they will be changing it so it probably won't be anything like we had. That said, please reference my previous post about preparation. Really, we showed up as the third class to get interviewed this fall and not one of us had ANY gouge. I can honestly tell you that after having been to the interview less than a week ago that knowing anything about it would have diminished my performance. I would assume the same of my peers. Somehow, even though I was dying to have some gouge I never needed it. Here's why: These guys (F9) can see through canned answers like a window. Their format will truly and sincerely help you feel relaxed and get to know you (and you them). I'm sure they'll change it, but their philosphy won't change and that's simple - are you someone they can fly with for 3 days, 30 days, or 30 years? You have to ask yourself the same. Seriously, just spend some time recalling some of your CRM experiences, study some AIM, part 91, and be prepared to demonstrate what kind of captain you are (decisive yet utilize all resources, CRM, etc.). Wouldn't you look for the same in someone you wanted to potentially hire? To me knowing that was awesome because it reminded me of where I fly now.

Best of luck to you Kane!

M3

 

[Kane]

Thanks M3! I appreciate the info.

 

[jetalc]

.....with a cheerleading baton protruding from his rectum.

Yer killin' me! Great visual!

 

[RiteSideUp]

Congrats M3!

I would like to echo M3's comments. I went through the interview with him and its all true. What a great bunch of people. It truely felt like a big family and I'm excited to become a part of it.

For those of you with an interview coming up, M3 gave the only true gouge out there and if you follow it, you'll do well. So far F9 is the first place i've interviewed at that makes a concerted effort to actually find out what kind of person you are and they are a very sincere group.

Oh, and while we were sitting in the break room waiting for the next interview session, Jeff Potter came by and shook all our hands. I was quite taken aback since that is the first CEO's hand I had ever shook. And he was a really nice guy and really cared about our experience at the interview. And we were just INTERVIEWEES not new hires even.

All i can say is that I am thoroughly impressed with the culture at F9 and that it is a company that is destined for a great future.

See you in class M3!