Anyone ever seen this site? Pilots For Truth

[RJPilott]

"But 'im sure they love the fact you will believe everything you are told". Again the pot calling the kettle black, what is the truth? BTW when I was doing RVSM certification flights i nthe DA-20 where I had to do 350 KT passes at 300' AGL to calibrate the test equipment. I did it on the Radar Altimeter, because my baro altimeter read 600', it was reading 300' high. If my airplane had a FDR, what altitude would it have read? Again what is the truth?

Does your DA-20 have the same ADC as a 757-200?

I know where you're going.. and you're wrong.

If static pressure was effected.. .the DoD video is complete BS. If static pressure wasnt effected... there is NO WAY.. IMPOSSIBLE it could have hit the light poles.

So.. which story would you like to commit to?

 

[seethru]

How quickly did those towers fall down after impact... What is the burn rate of Jet-A in a controlled environment. What are the OSHA codes for a Class A 110 story Skyscraper? (hint: the buildings didnt fall due to impact or jet fuel)

I know the answers... do you?

Hundreds of my brother firemen died in that tragedy...

To put this simply, you disgust me.

 

[SKC]

How quickly did those towers fall down after impact... What is the burn rate of Jet-A in a controlled environment. What are the OSHA codes for a Class A 110 story Skyscraper? (hint: the buildings didnt fall due to impact or jet fuel)

I know the answers... do you?

I hope you're not that dilusional when you're in the cockpit.

 

[pilotyip]

SKC, the truth is, this guy is a nut case and his AME should be looking into further evaluation of his reality based thinking ability. Next thing you know he will telling us is that the space aliens are really at Roswell.

 

[kf4amu]

He just also happens to have the same exact face as the hijacker on the FBI site.


Same with the "hijacker" from Denver that is still alive.

Someone might want to tell the FBI to update their website.. .after 5 years...

But im sure they love the fact you will believe everything you are told.

Show me a link to this picture on the FBI website...and NOT one that is archived from when they misidentified him.

Then show me one of the Morrocan Waleed Al Shaheri.

Moron...the FBI would leave a picture of the Morroco guy on their website and still call him a terrorist after apologizing and admitting it was a case of mistaken identity? Geeeez...

 

[kf4amu]

How quickly did those towers fall down after impact... What is the burn rate of Jet-A in a controlled environment. What are the OSHA codes for a Class A 110 story Skyscraper? (hint: the buildings didnt fall due to impact or jet fuel)

I know the answers... do you?

Once again you're a moron. Nobody said they fell because of impact or jet fuel. They fell because of fire...

Truss type construction is well known in the firefighting business as Firefighter killers. They collapse completely without much warning. The joints do most of the work, and when one fails, it affects every other joint, unlike brick and mortor, or concrete block structures.

If you dont get this basic point that redneck volunteer fireman in the smallest backwoods towns in america can understand, be quiet.

 

[Fugawe]

SKC, the truth is, this guy is a nut case and his AME should be looking into further evaluation of his reality based thinking ability. Next thing you know he will telling us is that the space aliens are really at Roswell.

I'll bet Star Trek conventions are full of these guys.

A little bit of knowledge + a lot of time on your hands + a few misfiring neural synapses = a conspiracy website and some cheerleaders.

Saddest is the disservice he does to the families and fallen workers of these tragedies. Rather than letting them mourn and recover, he whips them up into his conspiracy frenzy with pseudo-facts and innuendo.

It'll drag on forever as he claims the govt, the military, the system, etc is covering it up. This allows him to keep his name and efforts highlighted ad nauseum.........which is what he's really after anyway.


Fugawe

 

[Makesheepnervus]

RJPILOT, before you lump yourself in with these 9/11 conspiracy morons take some time (actually a lot of time) to read this;

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

this;

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y

this;

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

and this;

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Use some logic and reason for heavens' sake, and if you still insist upon believing in fantasies SHOW US SOME PROOF

 

[Fugawe]

Shhhhhh..............maybe he went away.

 

[Gorilla]

Remember boys and girls, THAT lunatic may be flying your family from Des Moines to Chicago. Not good.

 

[Makesheepnervus]

I never know wether to laugh or scream when I hear some of these conspiracy theorists. If you want to put their Ideas in perspective, consider this scenario;

An aircraft that may have been hijacked has crashed into a large public building which subsequently collapsed resulting in a tragically large loss of life. It is your responsibility to assemble a team to investigate the disaster and discover the cause. You have a choice of two teams;

Team "A" consisting of;

Structural engineers, proffesional aviation crash investigators, proffesional criminal investigators from say, the FBI and CIA and engineers from the aircraft manufacturer who actually visit the crash site and collect evidence and then take as much time as is neccesary to reach a consensus based on logic and reason.

OR

Team "B" consisting of;

Some teenage film students, a few actors including Charlie Sheen, a fiction novelist or two, a couple of politicians, a shady businessman who fronts bogus companies and a few more journalists who are looking for a book deal and who complete their "investigation" by only using material found on the internet to support a conclusion they had already made before they even started.


Hmmmmmmm,

Tough choice, which team would you choose?

 

[Kingairrick]

RJPilot: (God I hope you really aren't a professional aviator)
Try this;
1. Go to the nearest bar with a sleazy reputation. (DON'T WEAR YOUR UNIFORM)
2. Pick a mediocre looking woman who is unaccompanied.
3. Begin buying her drinks, while carefully avoiding the topic of this thread. (Just ask her something about herself and shut up.)
4. When her speech begins to slur, ask her to go to HER place. (Her place because she'll get weirded out at your place for sure.)
5. As soon as you arrive, kiss her before you say something stupid.
6. Perform the act of sexual intercourse.
7. Do it again.
8. See if you start to lighten up and rejoin the rest of us in the real world.

 

[RJPilott]

Wow... look at all the personal attacks on someone just because they question their govt.

Excellent debate style you got there! Really strong.

I suppose you call all the family members looking for answers.. lunatics? You people are a disgrace to the American Republic. You all deserve to wear a redcoat.

Enjoy your next TSA search..

 

[RJPilott]

8. See if you start to lighten up and rejoin the rest of us in the real world.

You should start to open your eyes and see the exponential growth combined with significant poll results of the so called "lunatics". Seems almost 50% of Americans are "lunatics" and growing. Scary huh?

 

[RJPilott]

To the guy wanting the picture of the hijackers.. they havent changed since the week of Sept 11, 2001. Go fetch.

 

[RJPilott]

To the guy who posted abovetopsecret... get with the program.. thats old news and debunked many times over including the fact that most of its links no longer work. If you want to try something relatively new (where they measure plane parts using humans in the photo as a tape measure), try aerospaceweb.com.

Although, that site is a joke as well.

If you want to discuss the FACTS based on AA77 Flight Data Recorder as provided by the NTSB, please feel free to PM me... or perhaps you can use the "lunatic" talking points some of you are so good at..lol.. .since obviously you dont know any of the facts.

By the way... none of the aircraft parts found from ALL the sites (GZ or the pentagon) were never matched up via mx logs... just a bit if info from a "lunatic" to the ignorant that believes everything the govt tells you.

 

[Makesheepnervus]

RJ, the abovetopsecret site may be old news but it is correct news, (and by the way de-bunked by whom?; 9/11 conspiracy nuts?). Did you read the entire "loose change guide"

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

It will probably take you a couple of hours to read the entire site, but it does address virtually every absurd point made by loose change.

 

[Makesheepnervus]

I can almost understand why some people would believe in conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assasination or TWA flight 800 as some of the alternative ideas are at least plausible even if they later fall apart under greater scrutiny, but these 9/11 conspiracy ideas are just absolutely absured. Every idea presented in these theories always revolves around a question and if an answer to that question is provided it requires one to believe in a conspiracy that would have to involve tens of thousands of people.

As an example; we are supposed to believe that all the aircraft where in fact empty drones, the passengers and crew that boarded the planes would have had to be somehow, somewhere removed from the 4 seperate aircraft. Tell me how and where was that done. Now, what about the families of the 200 or so passengers and crew, why would they be saying that their loved ones died in the impacts, if they were still alive? If you say that 200 or so passengers and crew are being "held" somewhere then tell me where and by whom. If you say that they were later "eliminated" to avoid having them tell their stories, then why would you bother removing them from the aircraft in the first place?

I could go on and on, with each point, but let's sum it up by saying that conspiracy theorists do nothing but ask questions (Dumb questions). Whereas
the people that actually investigated the events provide answers.

Again, I restate my question; Where is your proof?

 

[pilotyip]

"If you say that 200 or so passengers and crew are being "held" somewhere then tell me where and by whom" Same place the vets with the "Black Clap" are being held on that ship off the coast of Vietnam, you know the ones with the incurable VD who declared missing in action. (if confused see my eariler thread)

 

[Makesheepnervus]

As for matching up parts against MX logs, that would presume the parts found still had their ID numbers visible. Futher more it wouldn't surprise me if a part didn't match as people are not always perfect in their record keeping. It is not uncommon for a part installed on the left being recorded as being on the right. etc, etc. And as for the "Facts" from the AA 77 flight recorder, go ahead and post them so that everyone can evaluate them. That is how a rational investigation process works.