Anyone ever seen this site? Pilots For Truth

[RJPilott]

Pilots for 9/11 Truth is a group of pilots and aviation professionals commited to seeking the truth about the events surrounding 9/11/2001. We mainly focus on the 4 different aircraft, pilots and maneuvers performed on 9/11/2001. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the US Government doesnt seem to be very forthcoming with answering questions. We stand with the Scholars for Truth along side family members of the victims, family members of soldiers who have given the ultimate sacrifice including the many Ground Zero workers who are now ill or have passed away when we ask for a new independent investigation into the events of 9/11. We do not accept the 9/11 Commission report as a satisfactory explaination for the sacrifice every American has made and continue to make. Some more than others.

http://pilotsfor911truth.bravehost.com/index.html​

Site is under construction. Be sure to visit the American 77 page. This group has recently acquired the Flight Data Recorder data from the NTSB through the Freedom of Information Act. They have analyzed it and found it is in direct conflict with the Official story. The NTSB refuses to comment thus far.​

Aklso interesting to note...​

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon
Allegations Brought to Inspectors General​

By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 2, 2006; Page A03​

Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.​

Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources.​

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/01/AR2006080101300.html​

 

[pilotyip]

When someone determines what truth is, please post it here. Read the B-17 crewmember reports from the same squadron, on the same mission at the same time, big things fit, like ship 672 going down. But little things do not fit. Does this mean someone lied, covered up? The fog of war, particularly something for which you have never trained is very foggy. So again what is truth?

 

[kenimpzoom]

If someone is going to take the time and energy to FAKE 9/11, dont you think they would have taken the time and energy to do it correctly???

 

[Fugawe]

OMG, not again.

Crop circles, Roswell, black helicopters, fake lunar landings, 100 MPG cars, Elvis and Kennedy live...............

Yeah, we're all just dummies stuck in the 'Truman Show'.

Oh please show us the way Pilots for Truth!!!!


Fugawe

 

[RJPilott]

Perhaps you should read over the site before you ridicule...


We want truthful answers to questions such as:

1. Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked airliners not followed that day?
2. Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Pentagon not activated during the attack?
3. Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to complete his elementary school visit, apparently unconcerned about his safety or that of the schoolchildren?
4. Why hasn't a single person been fired, penalized, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?
5. Why haven't authorities in the U.S. and abroad published the results of multiple investigations into trading that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the 9/11 attacks, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of traceable gains?
6. Why has Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI translator who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Ashcroft and granted by a Bush-appointed judge?
7. How could Flight 77, which reportedly hit the Pentagon, have flown back towards Washington D.C. for 40 minutes without being detected by the FAA's radar or the even superior radar possessed by the US military?
8. How were the FBI and CIA able to release the names and photos of the alleged hijackers within hours, as well as to visit houses, restaurants, and flight schools they were known to frequent?
9. What happened to the over 20 documented warnings given our government by 14 foreign intelligence agencies or heads of state?
10. Why did the Bush administration cover up the fact that the head of the Pakistani intelligence agency was in Washington the week of 9/11 and reportedly had $100,000 wired to Mohamed Atta, considered the ringleader of the hijackers?
11. Why did the 911 Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?
12. Why was Philip Zelikow chosen to be the Executive Director of the ostensibly independent 911 Commission although he had co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice?

Those who are demanding deeper inquiry now number in the hundreds of thousands, including a former member of the first Bush administration, a retired Air Force colonel, a European parliamentarian, families of the victims, highly respected authors, investigative journalists, peace and justice leaders, former Pentagon staff, and the National Green Party.
As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:

1. An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
2. Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
3. Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
4. The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry.

. Signed,
Signatories

1. Virginia Deane Abernethy, Ph.D., anthropologist, author, Population Politics
2. Ed Asner, actor, activist
3. Marshall Auerback, international portfolio strategist for David W. Tice & Associates, Inc.
4. Catherine Austin Fitts, Asst. Secretary of Housing in the first Bush administration
5. Keidi Obi Awadu, aka The Conscious Rasta, talk show host, LIBRadio
6. Michael Badnarik, Libertarian candidate for President
7. Byron Belitsos, publisher, Origin Press, author Planetary Democracy
8. Philip J. Berg, Esquire, former deputy attorney general, Pennsylvania
9. Medea Benjamin, activist, author, co-founder, Global Exchange and Code Pink
10. Dennis Bernstein, investigative reporter, radio host of KPFA's Flashpoints
11. Steve Bhaerman aka Swami Beyondananda, author, political comedian
12. Brad Blanton, Ph.D., psychotherapist, author, Radical Honesty
13. Saniel Bonder, spiritual teacher and author, Great Relief
14. Dr. Robert Bowman, USAF Lt. Col. (Rtd.), founder, Institute for Space and Security Studies
15. John Buchanan, author, candidate for the Republican Party Presidential nomination, 2004
16. Gray Brechin, Ph.D., author, environmental historian, professor, UC Berkeley
17. Fred Burks, presidential interpreter for Bush, Clinton, Cheney, and Gore
18. http://forums.flightinfo.com/

 

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1. Norma Carr-Rufino, Ph.D., author, professor of management, San Francisco State University
2. Angana Chatterji, Ph.D., scholar-activist and professor of anthropology
3. Paul Cienfuegos, co-founder, Democracy Unlimited of Humboldt County
4. David Cobb, attorney, national presidential candidate, US Green Party
5. John Cobb, Ph.D., theologian, co-author, For the Common Good
6. Ernest Callenbach, founder/editor, Film Quarterly, author, Ecotopia
7. Kevin Danaher, Ph.D., author, speaker, co-founder, Global Exchange
8. Stephen Dinan, author, Radical Spirit
9. Ronnie Dugger, journalist/author, co-founder, Alliance for Democracy
10. Rachel Ehrenfeld, Ph.D., Director, American Center for Democracy, author, Funding Evil
11. Daniel Ellsberg, author, Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers
12. Jodie Evans, co-founder, Code Pink
13. Richard Falk, Professor Emeritus of International Law, Princeton University
14. Michael Franti, musician, filmmaker, human rights worker
15. Janeane Garofalo, actress, comedienne, talk show host, Air America Radio
16. Jim Garrison, Ph.D., president, State of the World Forum, author, America as Empire
17. Bruce Gagnon, Chair, Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space
18. Ric Giardina, author, consultant, speaker, former Director of Trademarks and Brands for Intel
19. John Gray, Ph.D., #1 bestselling author, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus
20. Stan Goff, 25-year Army Special Ops veteran, author, Full Spectrum Disorder
21. Melvin Goodman, senior fellow, Center for International Policy, author, former Senior Analyst, CIA, professor, National War College
22. Morton Goulder, Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter
23. David Ray Griffin, Ph.D., theologian, author, New Pearl Harbor
24. Doris "Granny D" Haddock, campaign finance crusader, NH Democratic candidate for Senate
25. Thom Hartmann, radio host; author, Unequal Protection
26. Richie Havens, singer, songwriter, performer, artist
27. Paul Hawken, bestselling author, environmentalist, entrepreneur, founder of Smith & Hawken
28. Randy Hayes, founder, Rainforest Action Network, US National Director, Direction Conservation
29. Richard Heinberg, author, The Party's Over, core faculty, New College of California
30. Van Jones, executive director, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights
31. Rob Kall, editor, OpEdNews.com, president, Futurehealth, Inc.
32. Georgia Kelly, executive director, Praxis Peace Institute
33. Sean Kelly, Ph.D., author, professor of philosophy and religion, CA Institute of Integral Studies
34. John Joseph Kennedy, Democratic Write-in Presidential Candidate for 2004
35. Mimi Kennedy, actress, Dharma and Greg, progressive activist
36. Faiz Khan, M.D., Triage Emergency Physician on 9/11, Assistant Imam
37. David Korten, author, When Corporations Rule the World
38. Frances Moore LappÈ, author, Diet for a Small Planet; founder, Small Planet Institute
39. Scott M. Legere, 25 year radio broadcaster as Scott Ledger, Tampa FL
40. Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, TIKKUN Magazine, author, Healing Israel/Palestine
41. Michael Levine, bestselling author of Deep Cover, journalist, 25-year veteran of the DEA
42. Joanna Macy, Ph.D., eco-philosopher, author
43. Enver Masud, founder, The Wisdom Fund, author, The Truth About Islam
44. John McCarthy, former Special Forces Captain, president, Veterans Equal Rights Protection Advocacy
45. Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, co-founder, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
46. Cynthia McKinney, five-term Congresswoman from Georgia
47. Ralph Metzner, Ph.D., author, professor, co-founder, Green Earth Foundation
48. Mark Crispin Miller, media critic, author, professor, New York University
49. Joseph W. Montaperto, New York City Fire Department
50. Leuren Moret, geoscientist, radiation specialist, environmental commissioner
51. Ralph Nader, Independent candidate for President
52. Craig Neal, author, co-founder, The Heartland Institute, former publisher, Utne Reader
53. Jeff Norman, executive director, Tour of Duty
54. Jenna Orkin, Esquire, World Trade Center Environmental Organization

http://forums.flightinfo.com/

 

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Kelly Patricia O'Meara, investigative journalist, public relations
Michael Parenti, Ph.D., author, Superpatriotism and The Terrorism Trap
Edward L. Peck, former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq, former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism
Peter Phillips, Ph.D., professor, Sonoma State University, director, Project Censored
Henri Poole, Internet pioneer, board member, Free Software Foundation
Robert Rabbin, author, speaker, creator of TruthForPresident.org
Paul H. Ray, Ph.D., sociologist, author, The Cultural Creatives
John Renesch, business futurist, author, Getting to the Better Future
John Rensenbrink, professor emeritus, Bowdoin College, co-founder, US Green Party
John Robbins, author, founder, EarthSave International
William Rodriguez, 9/11 rescue effort hero, founder, Hispanic Victims Group
Neal Rogin, Emmy-award winning writer, performer, social observer
Allen Roland, Ph.D., psychotherapist, published author and peace activist
Rosemary Radford Ruether, professor of feminist theology, Graduate Theological Union
Michael Ruppert, publisher/editor, From The Wilderness, author, Crossing the Rubicon
Chris Sanders, founder, Sanders Research Associates
Karl W. B. Schwarz, President, CEO, Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC
Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, author, Drugs, Oil, and War
Firefighter Kevin Shea, FDNY Hazmat Operations
Michelle Shocked, singer/songwriter, activist
Indira Singh, risk management and computer systems consultant
J. Michael Springmann, attorney, former Foreign Service Officer, US Department of State
Douglas Sturm, Ph.D., university professor emeritus, Bucknell University
Marjorie Hewit Suchocki, Ph.D., theologian, author
Chuck Turner, Boston City Council
James W. Walter Jr., venture investor, philanthropist, founder of Walden Three
Dan Whaley, E-commerce pioneer, founder of GetThere.com, acquired for $750M
Burns H. Weston, J.S.D., Professor of Law Emeritus, Director, Center for Human Rights, U-Iowa
Howard Zinn, professor, historian, author, A People's History of the United States
Family Members

1. Joanne Barbara, wife of FDNY Asst. Chief of Dept. Gerard Barbara
2. Gayle Barker, sister of William A. Karnes, WTC
3. Michele Bergsohn, wife of Alvin Bergsohn, Cantor Fitzgerald
4. Derrill Bodley, father of Deora Bodley, passenger on Flight 93
5. Kathryn C. Bowden, sister of Thomas H. Bowden, Jr. WTC1, 104th floor
6. Janet Calia, wife of Dominick Calia, Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC1
7. Maggie Cashman, wife of William Joseph Cashman, United Flight 93
8. Lynne Castrianno Galante, sister of Leonard Castrianno, 1WTC, 105th floor
9. Elza Chapa-McGowan, daughter of Rosemary Chapa, Pentagon
10. Bruce De Cell, father-in-law of Mark Petrocelli North Tower, 92nd floor
11. Ralph D'Esposito, father of Michael D'Esposito, WTC, 96th floor
12. Loisanne Diehl, Surviving Spouse, Michael D. Diehl, WTC2, 90th floor
13. Adina D. Eisenberg, sister of Eric Eisenberg, WTC
14. Jonathan M. Fisher, son of Dr. Gerald Paul "Geep" Fisher, Pentagon
15. Michael J. Fox, brother of Jeffrey L. Fox, Tower 2, 89th floor
16. Laurel A. Gay, sister of Peter A. Gay, AA Flight 11
17. Irene Golinsky, wife of Col. Ronald F. Golinski USA RET, Pentagon
18. Lori, Jerry, and Beatrice Guadagno, sister and parents of Richard Guadagno, Flight 93
19. Kristen Hall, daughter of fallen firefighter Thomas Kuveikis 9/11
20. Kurt D. Horning, father of Matthew D. Horning, WTC Tower One, 95th floor
21. Jennifer W. Hunt, wife of William C. Hunt, Euro Brokers
22. John Keating, son of Barbara Keating, passenger on AA Flight 11
23. L. Russell Keene II, father of Russ Keene III, WTC2, 89th floor, KBW
24. Peter Kousoulis, sister died in WTC
25. Paul & Barbara Kirwin, parents of Glenn Davis Kirwin, Cantor Fitzgerald 105th floor
26. Barbara Krukowski-Rastelli, mother of William E. Krukowski, NYC firefighter
27. Laura and Ira Lassman, parents of Nicholas C. Lassman, died in WTC, Tower One
28. Johnny Lee, husband of Lorraine Greene
29. Alicia LeGuillow, mother of Nestor A. Cintron III
30. Francine Levine, sister of Adam K. Ruhalter, who died on 9/11
31. Bob McIlvaine, father of Robert McIlvaine, WTC, Merrill Lynch
32. Mary McWilliams, mother of FF Martin E. McWilliams- Engine 22
33. Daryl J. Meehan, brother of Colleen Ann Barkow, WTC 1, 105th floor
34. Elvira P. Murphy, wife of Patrick Murphy, WTC 1
35. Natalee Pecorelli, sister of Thomas Pecorelli of Flight 11
36. James L Perry, M.D and Patricia J. Perry, parents of John W. Perry, Esq., NYPD Officer 9/11
37. David Potorti, brother of James Potorti, North Tower, WTC, Marsh & McLennan
38. Terry Kay Rockefeller, sister of Laura Rockefeller, North Tower, WTC
39. Grissel Rodriguez-Valentin, wife of Benito Valentin, WTC1, 94th floor
40. Alissa Rosenberg-Torres, widow of Luis Eduardo Torres, post-9/11 mother, writer
41. Elaine Saber, mother of Scott Saber
42. Julie Scarpitta, mother of Michelle Scarpitta, WTC Building 2, 84th floor
43. Paula Shapiro, mother of Eric Eisenberg, WTC2
44. Elizabeth Turner, wife of Simon Turner, lost on 11th September 2001
45. Adele Welty, mother of Firefighter Timothy Welty, FDNY, Squad 288
46. Joan W. Winton, mother of David Winton, WTC, South Tower, 89th floor
47. David Yancey, husband of Vicki Yancey, American Airlines Flight 77
48. Nissa Youngren, daughter of Robert G. LeBlanc, flight 175
49. Late Signatories (starting toward 200...)
50. Rita M. Haley, President, National Organization for Women, New York Chapter
51. http://forums.flightinfo.com/

 

[RJPilott]

1. Immortal Technique, Harlem-based hip-hop artist with Viper Records, Revolutionary I&II
2. Bob Kirkconnell, served in the U.S. Air Force 27 years, reaching the rank of Master Sergeant
3. Dennis Kyne, former Army air medic, 18th Airborne Corps during Gulf War I, musician, author, "Support the Truth"
4. Paul Landis, author, "Stop Bush Now!"
5. Eric H. May, former Army military intelligence officer and media essayist
6. Charles Shaw, Editor, Newtopia Magazine, National Peace Action Coordinator, National Green Party
7. Peter Erlinder, professor, William Mitchell College of Law, past-President National Lawyers Guild
8. Daniel Robert Rezac, 2004 Vice-Presidential Write-In Candidate, former Aviator & Armor Officer, Army National Guard, B.S.B.A.
9. Joel Horwitz, lost beloved cousin in WTC 1
10. Jessica Murrow, lost husband Stephen Adams, Beverage Manager, Windows on the World, WTC 1
11. Ellen Mariani, lost husband Neil on Flight 175
12. Jean Hunt, disabled survivor of Pentagon attack
13. Ralph & Brigitte Sabbag, lost son Jason in WTC 2
14. Take action!
15. Send this information to your congresspeople and journalists, demanding attention
16. Help New York citizens and 9/11 family members, beginning Thursday, Oct. 28th, by signing an online petition in support of their formal complaint to be filed with New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer. Petition at www.justicefor911.org
17. Stay informed here at www.911truth.org and get active in local groups at www.septembereleventh.org

 

[RJPilott]

Whistleblowers being silenced by the US Supreme Court..

We the undersigned, who have worked within various government agencies (FBI,

CIA, FAA, DIA, Customs) responsible for national security and public safety, call upon
you in Congress to include the voices of those with first-hand knowledge and expertise in
the important issues at hand. We stand ready to do our part.
Respectfully,
1. Castello, Edward J. Jr., Former Special Agent, FBI
2. Cole, John M., Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist, FBI
3. Conrad, David "Mark", Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs
4. Dew, Rosemary N., Former Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism &
Counterintelligence, FBI
5. Dzakovic, Bogdan, Former Red Team Leader, FAA
6. Edmonds, Sibel D., Former Language Specialist, FBI
7. Elson, Steve, Retired Navy Seal & Former Special Agent, FAA & US Navy
8. Forbes, David, Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analysts, BoydForbes, Inc.,
9. Goodman, Melvin A., Retired Senior Analyst/ Division Manager & senior fellow at the
Center for International Policy, CIA
10. Graf, Mark, Former Security Supervisor, Planner, & Derivative Classifier,
Department of Energy
11. Graham, Gilbert M., Retired Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
12. Kleiman, Diane, Former Special Agent, US Customs
13. Kwiatkowski, Lt Col Karen U., Veteran Policy Analyst, USAF-DoD
14. Larkin, Lynne A., Former Operation Officer, CIA
15. MacMichael, David, Former Senior Estimates Officer, CIA
16. McGovern, Raymond L., Veteran Analyst, CIA
17. Pahle, Theodore J. Senior Intelligence Officer (Ret), Defense Intelligence Agency,
Office of Naval Intelligence, and U.S. Army Intelligence
18. Sarshar, Behrooz, Retired Language Specialist, FBI
19. Sullivan, Brian F., Retired Special Agent & Risk Management Specialist, FAA
20. Tortorich, Larry J., Retired US Naval Officer, US Navy & Dept. of Homeland
Security/TSA
21. Turner, Jane A., Retired Special Agent, FBI
22. Vincent, John B., Retired Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
23. Whitehurst, Dr. Fred, Retired Supervisory Special Agent/Laboratory Forensic
Examiner, FBI
24. Wright, Col. Ann, Retired Reserve Colonel & Former US Diplomat, US Army,
25. Zipoli, Matthew J., Special Response Team (SRT) Officer, DOE
CC: Senate & House Intelligence Committees
Senate & House Judiciary Committees
Senate & House Armed Services Committees
Senate & House Government Reform Subcommittees​

 

[pilotyip]

And again I am sure when we find truth, it will be known to all.