Another Comair rumor - 80 Airplanes

tiffanytaylor

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I heard Comair's fleet will go down to 80 aircraft over the course of 2009. F/As with 6 years or more seniority can expect to be furloughed if that happens, so I was told. I know most here who read are pilots but just thought I'd post this to see what you think.


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It's the first I've heard of it, but it won't surprise me at all. They've already posted some of our owned 50 seaters for sale online, not just the lease backs that we are "letting expire."
 

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It's the first I've heard of it, but it won't surprise me at all. They've already posted some of our owned 50 seaters for sale online, not just the lease backs that we are "letting expire."
Where do they post on-line? They suck, sorry.
 

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What is the actual staffing model they use? Meaning, how many crews per airplane? Or perhaps I should ask, do they use a staffing model at all?
 

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Flight Attendants get the best rumors.

Although I wouldn't doubt it.
If it were true, Comair guys...don't you have a min aircraft in your contract?
 

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If it were true, Comair guys...don't you have a min aircraft in your contract?
Yes, we do have a min aircraft number in our contract. Having said that, I do not know what our "min" number is, but DL and OH haven't been bashful about violating the contract in many ways for quite some time.... so a significant fleet reduction doesn't come as a surprise to me.
 

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Yes, we do have a min aircraft number in our contract. Having said that, I do not know what our "min" number is, but DL and OH haven't been bashful about violating the contract in many ways for quite some time.... so a significant fleet reduction doesn't come as a surprise to me.
So what has the Union does, since DAL and OH and blatently violated your contract?
 

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Yes, we do have a min aircraft number in our contract. Having said that, I do not know what our "min" number is, but DL and OH haven't been bashful about violating the contract in many ways for quite some time.... so a significant fleet reduction doesn't come as a surprise to me.
Comair doesn't give a damn about contracts or keeping thier word, look at what happened in the BK, ,Delta said if Comair reduced thier cost, they would get more flying. Well it didn't happen, and the airline is going to ground service only ops. Can't back that last statement up, but a manager that was pissed off and subsequently terminated said it was going to happen.
 

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So what has the Union does, since DAL and OH and blatently violated your contract?
In one word, nothing. They are still in a pissing match with mgt on our eMisery scheduling program... They wouldn't even talk about furlough mitigation unless they agreed to fix eMaestro and a list of other items.

Our MEC is so myopic it makes me sick. In these times, you have to pick and choose your battles... and frankly being as short-sighted as they are right now, they are going to be an instrumental catalyst in driving OH flying into non-existance.

I was so mad when I got furloughed and never thought I would say this, but I am actually glad I got put out on the street and was able to find another job. Even if things were to work out, upgrade is 10+ years away if ever...
 

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Comair doesn't give a damn about contracts or keeping thier word, look at what happened in the BK, ,Delta said if Comair reduced thier cost, they would get more flying.
Also from what I have gathered :
-Comair cruises at a slower speed using PPAS (sp?) to save DAL fuel money.
-Comair has some APU usage policy to save more fuel money and mx cost
-Some ontime perfomance to keep up the Delta brand name.
all to save Delta more money and to make them a better product, only to furlough 300+ pilots????

How much in concessions did Comair guys give last year? $14-18mil???? and this is how Comair guys are repaid?
Just curious, what does your union have to say about this?
 

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I was so mad when I got furloughed and never thought I would say this, but I am actually glad I got put out on the street and was able to find another job. Even if things were to work out, upgrade is 10+ years away if ever...
(enter sarcasm)
Are you telling me ALPA did nothing to preserve your job? They did nothing in helping you find work when you were put on the street!? I am shocked!!! :D

Congrats on the new gig. What are you doing, may I ask?
 

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Also from what I have gathered :
-Comair cruises at a slower speed using PPAS (sp?) to save DAL fuel money.
-Comair has some APU usage policy to save more fuel money and mx cost
-Some ontime perfomance to keep up the Delta brand name.
all to save Delta more money and to make them a better product, only to furlough 300+ pilots????

How much in concessions did Comair guys give last year? $14-18mil???? and this is how Comair guys are repaid?
Just curious, what does your union have to say about this?
We even have the APU Sheriff!!! Here's a shot of one in action!

http://www.professional-humorist.com/Sheriff.jpg

-I guess we can't call imgs in html here...?
 
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(enter sarcasm)
Are you telling me ALPA did nothing to preserve your job? They did nothing in helping you find work when you were put on the street!? I am shocked!!! :D

Congrats on the new gig. What are you doing, may I ask?
Just preferential hiring with XJ, which I got on with.... In the mean time, I am working as a computer programmer/online course designer for a small private company until my class date.
 

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Just preferential hiring with XJ, which I got on with.... In the mean time, I am working as a computer programmer/online course designer for a small private company until my class date.
I thought XJ furloughed? Or is this someone else?
 

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XJ is Mesaba's airline code. You maybe confused it for XJET?
 
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