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And the Easties are getting even more desperate...

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General Lee

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And a response from the Easties about the AA SLI....

From an APC thread, a response from the Easties about the AWA guys getting a seat at the AA SLI...... Wow! This is getting good.



"Merger Committee Update


Over the past week, the Merger Committee and counsel have carefully reviewed the decision in the Preliminary Arbitration which directed APA to create a separate merger committee for former America West pilots.

We are obviously disappointed with the decision. It failed to address the important arguments we presented concerning the proper interpretation of the McCaskill-Bond Amendment and the binding effect of the January 2014 decision of the United States District Court in Arizona in Addington II. Indeed, the Preliminary Arbitration decision fails to analyze the language of McCaskill-Bond at all. Moreover, the Preliminary Arbitration decision, without any reasoning, relied upon statements by the Arizona District Court that are clearly ?dicta? and which the Addington Plaintiffs have conceded are without legal effect. The Preliminary Arbitration decision was wrong on a number of other points as well.
The only matter decided by the Preliminary Arbitration, however, was whether there would be an APA Committee created to represent the former America West pilots. Neither the decision in the Preliminary Arbitration nor any part of the evidence or proceedings in the Preliminary Arbitration is admissible in the SLI proceeding.

Litigation is always an option to protect the rights of our pilots, and the Committee will not hesitate to pursue appropriate claims if the Committee determines such action is necessary. In the judgment of the Merger Committee and its counsel, litigation concerning the Preliminary Arbitration decision is not necessary at this time to protect the rights of our pilots. The Merger Committee and counsel will continue to review and evaluate matters as they progress, always with the purpose of protecting the interests of the US Airways pilots.

At the hearing in the Preliminary Arbitration and in subsequent communications, the former America West pilots have indicated their seeming intention to predicate their proposal for integrating seniority based on an ?updated Nicolau list." We do not believe such a proposal is consistent with the RLA status quo at US Airways, with McCaskill-Bond, with the MOU or the Protocol Agreement or with the decisions of the United States District Court in Arizona. Nor do we believe such a proposal is in the best interests of US Airways pilots. The APA America West Merger Committee is free to make whatever proposal it wants, but whatever it proposes is just that ? a proposal ? nothing more. We are fully prepared to oppose any proposal that attempts to integrate the pilots of the New American Airlines in any manner that is not fair and equitable.

The Merger Committee will continue its work to certify the seniority lists at American and US Airways. We anticipate discussing various issues with the APA Committees, finalizing the schedule for the SLI hearings and preparing for those hearings. The Company is still in the process of producing information requested by APA?s American Airlines Pilots Seniority Integration Committee (the ?AA PSIC?) and by the USAPA Merger Committee. The certification process cannot be completed without this information as well as the agreement of the new APA America West Committee.

We will continue to keep you informed of our efforts and the process.
USAPA Merger Committee"





I don't think USAPA exists anymore, right?



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Referencing a "binding effect of... the decision." It's just so rich with irony - you may need an antacid.
 
The west was given a charity seat at the table with the big boys. To shut them up. Nic is dead. Every body knows it except the Westicles. Shame they are going to be smothered by the APA and USAPa.
 
The west was given a charity seat at the table with the big boys. To shut them up. Nic is dead. Every body knows it except the Westicles. Shame they are going to be smothered by the APA and USAPa.

You call the former USAir east operation as "big boy"? That's rich, considering all W/B's delivered after 2005 were supposed to be 1/2 crewed by west pilots.
 
I bet the arbitrators know that Nic isn't dead. In fact the 1st A350WB (for West Bird I'm told) is supposed to be dedicated The Spirit of George Nicolau.

Nic, since your duties include waxing Kirby's Porsche, does the license plate really read LOA93? He owes you so much, yet you'll always owe him more.
 
The Troll general should be able to go over 21K posts on tis subject alone, he is an expert on all things that spell trouble and how to solve them.
SWA bashing can have a rest now
 
Can anyone explain why these new arbitrators would throw a fellow arbitrator under the bus and not use the Nic award when they combine the 2 carriers? The idea that they would completely throw out an already arbitrated list would be precedent setting. Opening up all cans of worms. It would basically make the arbitration process meaningless.
 
Can anyone explain why these new arbitrators would throw a fellow arbitrator under the bus and not use the Nic award when they combine the 2 carriers? The idea that they would completely throw out an already arbitrated list would be precedent setting. Opening up all cans of worms. It would basically make the arbitration process meaningless.

Exxxxxcactly..... Why allow another group (Eastie wannabes) to do the same thing to one of their future awards? Allowing that would undermine the arbitrators' powers, and affect their own job security. Plus, they all probably know Nicolau himself personally. When you sign on the bottom line, they expect you to follow the award.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Can anyone explain why these new arbitrators would throw a fellow arbitrator under the bus and not use the Nic award when they combine the 2 carriers? The idea that they would completely throw out an already arbitrated list would be precedent setting. Opening up all cans of worms. It would basically make the arbitration process meaningless.

Well more recent arbitrators have deviated from nic's formula.
 

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