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AMR pilots; how many on furlough, when do you expect recalls to start?

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ksu_aviator said:
At least he looks at things with a positive attitude.

I'm betting you voted for Kerry? Am I right?
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No, Kit Darby is selling. All he is, is a salesman. And the number one thing that Kit Darby is selling is himself, that's what all salesmen do. Sure they are selling a product, but more importantly he is selling himself selling the product. He could make a poopy flavored popsicle sound appetizing.
 
ksu_aviator said:
At least he looks at things with a positive attitude.

I'm betting you voted for Kerry? Am I right?
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ok I am sorry, let me get Mr. Trolley out, here he comes, choo choo, its a wonderful day in the neighborhood, everything is great, the birds are singing, hello Mr. Birdee, tweet tweet, about 5000 guys are furloughed majors+regional pilots combined

won't you be my neighbor

Kerry? What does he have to do with things? ?!?!?!
 
satpak77 said:
about 5000 guys are furloughed majors+regional pilots combined
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Satpak, you're an eternal optomist. I think that the number's much higher.
If AMR's 2800+
UAL's ~1800
USAirways' ~2000
DAL not sure; I think that they're ~1000
NWAC not sure; I think that they're ~600

That's 8200 or so with just those airlines. Anyone feel free to jump in and correct the numbers above along with adding to the body count.
But don't worry; I'm sure that Kit Darby will tell us that 2006 will be the best year ever for pilot hiring.
 
Andy said:
Satpak, you're an eternal optomist. I think that the number's much higher.
If AMR's 2800+
UAL's ~1800
USAirways' ~2000
DAL not sure; I think that they're ~1000
NWAC not sure; I think that they're ~600

That's 8200 or so with just those airlines. Anyone feel free to jump in and correct the numbers above along with adding to the body count.
But don't worry; I'm sure that Kit Darby will tell us that 2006 will be the best year ever for pilot hiring.
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Holy smokes batman, thats worse than Kit Darby told me

I am sure however that the neighborhood will improve soon and the Trolley will be tooting his horn soon

Don't forget, we can always "get a job" with FedEx or UPS or if we "want", we can "go to" Southwest

yes yes thats it, more cool-aid! The hiring outlook is great!

Stay Positive!
 
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"At least he looks at things with a positive attitude."



Oh come on....wake up. He looks at things with dollar signs in his eyes, pure and simple.

You need to read Andy's post about 30 times, then maybe it will sink in. And while you are doing it, add the soon-to-be-furloughed guys from several regionals to the list of 8000-9000 furloughed. Aren't the regionals the place where all the hiring is supposed to be??
 
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JohnDoe said:
quote:
"At least he looks at things with a positive attitude."



Oh come on....wake up. He looks at things with dollar signs in his eyes, pure and simple.

You need to read Andy's post about 30 times, then maybe it will sink in. And while you are doing it, add the soon-to-be-furloughed guys from several regionals to the list of 8000-9000 furloughed. Aren't the regionals the place where all the hiring is supposed to be??
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aw come on, be positive

AA FO's are running at 18 years before Captain

be positive
 
ksu_aviator said:
I'm really tired of these types of remarks. Get over it! It was a down turn and not the end of the world! If you want to look for the negative in everything than you'll find it very difficult to get a job.

The majors and legacies may not be interviewing everyone that throws in an app, but then again, it isn't an entitlement. If you want a job with a major, go earn it. But don't come on here to cry and whine about how bad everything is and whoa is me bs. You all sound like little children. If you can't have it now, you are going to throw a fit. Well grow up.
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You're lecturing guys on furlough about being pessimistic? You've got some brass ones, buddy.

Now feel free to go back to your regularly-programmed, Air Inc dream-job-is-just-around-the-corner-if-your-motivated catatonic delusion.
 
KSU is counting Gulfstream's PFT program as "hiring"

BE POSITIVE!!! THINGS ARE GREAT!!!
 
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ksu_aviator said:
I'm really tired of these types of remarks. Get over it! It was a down turn and not the end of the world! If you want to look for the negative in everything than you'll find it very difficult to get a job.

The majors and legacies may not be interviewing everyone that throws in an app, but then again, it isn't an entitlement. If you want a job with a major, go earn it. But don't come on here to cry and whine about how bad everything is and whoa is me bs. You all sound like little children. If you can't have it now, you are going to throw a fit. Well grow up.
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This has got to be about the least "enlightened" comment I've seen on this board in a while (that's tough to do if you have a both a brain and a soul that aren't inop). Ever hear of Karma, "bro"?
 
be positive !!!

go "earn" your major job! wait....8000 people who already did that are on the street...ooops

be postive!

the KSU Aviation department needs the cool-aid for its own self-sustainment

be positive!

Gulfstream is hiring! As is Focus Air! Fly a 747! Oh yeah, FedEx is hiring too!

jobs galore! stop complaining and go "get one"!!!

be positive
 
Don't forget, we can always "get a job" with FedEx or UPS or if we "want", we can "go to" Southwest

yes yes thats it, more cool-aid! The hiring outlook is great!

Stay Positive!
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SatPak77--Forget what I was saying. I now see why you don't think things are improving. There are a lot of "qualified" pilots that are looking for work.

Enjoy your current position because it's going to be a long time before you can catch a ride on that Trolley, "Neighbor".

For everyone else, if you remember how bad it was in 2003 I think you will agree that things are looking better. Most airlines have stopped furloughing and a few are recalling or hiring. That's what improvement means.

Mr. Rogers (AKA satpak77) doesn't remember that far back because he was probably busy working on his MEI.

I prefer to be optimistic and that's after two furloughs and 6 airlines in the last 10 years. :beer:
 
FurloughedTwice said:
SatPak77--Forget what I was saying. I now see why you don't think things are improving. There are a lot of "qualified" pilots that are looking for work.

Enjoy your current position because it's going to be a long time before you can catch a ride on that Trolley, "Neighbor".

For everyone else, if you remember how bad it was in 2003 I think you will agree that things are looking better. Most airlines have stopped furloughing and a few are recalling or hiring. That's what improvement means.

Mr. Rogers (AKA satpak77) doesn't remember that far back because he was probably busy working on his MEI.

I prefer to be optimistic and that's after two furloughs and 6 airlines in the last 10 years. :beer:
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I just changed my Avatar

won't you be my neighbor
 
FURLOUGH

ABX - 16
ALOHA- 30
AMR - 2855
ATA - 275
DAL - 475
HAWAIIAN - 98
INDEPENDENCE - 1525
NWA - 673/120 more by 2QTR 06.
SUN COUNTRY - 100
UAL - 1900
USA - 1900
USA 3000 - 4

HIRING

AAI
ALK
ALLEGIANT
CHAMPION
EVERGREEN
FDX
FRNT
GEMINI
KALITTA
JBLU
NORTH AMERICAN
OMNI
RYAN
SWA
SOUTHERN AIR
UPS
WORLD
 
80drvr said:
Yes. APA is the France of labor unions...conceding before negotiations even start.
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80drvr, that says it all! Thanks for the laugh.

I should post that on C & R, if it hasn't been done already.

I am planning on bypassing until I can hold a CA line in LAX. That should be.... In 2030 - of course I would be 75 years old. That should be legal by then, so no worries!
 
AAflyer said:
When did USA 3000 furlough?


Thanks,

AA
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Furloughed 4 guys in first week of indoc last Oct. Pretty crappy, huh. Co. said the hurricane in Cancun caused them to cancel one a/c for the winter. The good news I heard 2 are now with Jet Blue and 1 was able to go to previous employer with his seniority. I don't know about the last one.
 
Ex737Driver said:
FURLOUGH

ABX - 16
ALOHA- 30
AMR - 2855
ATA - 275
DAL - 475
HAWAIIAN - 98
INDEPENDENCE - 1525
NWA - 673/120 more by 2QTR 06.
SUN COUNTRY - 100
UAL - 1900
USA - 1900
USA 3000 - 4

HIRING

AAI
ALK
ALLEGIANT
CHAMPION
EVERGREEN
FDX
FRNT
GEMINI
KALITTA
JBLU
NORTH AMERICAN
OMNI
RYAN
SWA
SOUTHERN AIR
UPS
WORLD
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Isn't your airline hiring?
 

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