Ameristar Fatal Crash Last Night

[NJA bound]

Anyone still working there hear any similar stories? How did they handle the other 2 fatal crashes? Didnt the girl who survived sue them?

That's interesting, the ntsb report shows pilot error, what would she be able to sue for?

 

[atpcliff]

MX.

cliff
GRB

 

[kamikaize]

Lastnight another Cpt and I did the same run as Dan and Terry did two weeks ago. It was a clear night and we asked them to give us the same vectors as they gave them for the Ils. We got the 220 heading and the same instructions to descend from 10k to 9k. I asked them where we were in relation to the site and he told us it was off of our left wing 1-2 miles. The area is pretty clear with one small mountain and tower located about 5 miles away at 7190ft hence the 9k ft altitude. The crash site is located about 15 miles from the airport at an elevation of 5700ft. This was no way a CFIT accident in my opinion. Lets let the NTSB figure out what happened and then decide who's fault it was.

To Mrs. Hughes and Mrs. Patty I give you ladies alot of credit for posting on here and reading all of this. There are alot of morons on this board who like to think they have the answers for everything and everyone. There are also alot of experienced pilots who know alot about AJI and flying. Dont make decisions on what you read on here but do listen to the common theme regarding the situation. I look forward to seing you both this saturday.

Bonzi

By the way Danny aka "FreightJock" thanks again for taking charge of the donations for their families. Your a good guy and very well trusted with the guys still here at Aji.

 

[HA25]

FALCON20DRIVER YOU ARE A VERY CRUEL PERSON. SOMETIMES THE WIVES ARE ON AS WELL. TO ALL OTHERS THANK YOU AND YOUR PRAYERS ARE APPRECIATED. IF ANTBODY WANTS TO SHARE STORIES OR GET UPDATES YOU CAN E-MAIL ME AT swnhc@yahoo>com OR CALL 972-757-7656 I MAY NOT ANWER ALL CALLS BUT I WILL TRY. THANKS FOR ALL THE LOVE. AUTUMN PATTY (TP'S WIFE)

Autumn,

I pray to God that you are able to find peace with this tragic situation. I know my wife worries all the time when I fly and I don't think she could cope with my loss.. I won't try to say anything to make you feel better.. you need to grieve and only time will heal your pain, if only a little.

RIP my brother freight dogs!

 

[RightTraffic]

Take nothing for granted!!!

R.I.P Brothers...GOD bless

 

[TxPilot0878]

To Mrs. Hughes and Mrs. Patty we are so sorry for your loss. Sincerest Regards to yall for being able to read a post that has as many negative/assinine comments as this post has seen. You are very strong and may time heal your hurt...but never take away from the love for aviation! Please Private Message me and let me know where and what time I may pay my repsects on Saturday!

Regards,

Tex

 

[TxPilot0878]

This was no way a CFIT accident in my opinion. Lets let the NTSB figure out what happened and then decide who's fault it was.

To Mrs. Hughes and Mrs. Patty I give you ladies alot of credit for posting on here and reading all of this. There are alot of morons on this board who like to think they have the answers for everything and everyone. There are also alot of experienced pilots who know alot about AJI and flying. Dont make decisions on what you read on here but do listen to the common theme regarding the situation. I look forward to seing you both this saturday.

Bonzi

I totally back what BONZI said...he is right in his opinion and I back what he said. Miss hanging out with you bud...good call! The rest goes unsaid...I already said it in the prior post!

 

[skydan5]

Lastnight another Cpt and I did the same run as Dan and Terry did two weeks ago. It was a clear night and we asked them to give us the same vectors as they gave them for the Ils. We got the 220 heading and the same instructions to descend from 10k to 9k. I asked them where we were in relation to the site and he told us it was off of our left wing 1-2 miles. The area is pretty clear with one small mountain and tower located about 5 miles away at 7190ft hence the 9k ft altitude. The crash site is located about 15 miles from the airport at an elevation of 5700ft. This was no way a CFIT accident in my opinion. Lets let the NTSB figure out what happened and then decide who's fault it was.

To Mrs. Hughes and Mrs. Patty I give you ladies alot of credit for posting on here and reading all of this. There are alot of morons on this board who like to think they have the answers for everything and everyone. There are also alot of experienced pilots who know alot about AJI and flying. Dont make decisions on what you read on here but do listen to the common theme regarding the situation. I look forward to seing you both this saturday.

Bonzi

By the way Danny aka "FreightJock" thanks again for taking charge of the donations for their families. Your a good guy and very well trusted with the guys still here at Aji.

Thanks Bonzi! The Fund is doing nicely, thanks to many generous and thoughtful people on this forum and fellow pilots of AJI. Unfortunately, Freight Jock (Me) has been suspended for getting mouthy with the Website Master. I promise to behave now.

 

[stupidpilot]

I have nothing to say to Ameristar other than Thank You. They have been nothing but kind and have done thier absolute best to return my husband to me. I am very grateful for all they have done. Now it's time to let the healing begin and rasie mine and my husbands children the way he wanted me to. There is nothing I can do about what happened it's done and I must now concentrate on our babies. I thank you all for all the wonderful things you have said about our husbands. Hope to see all you guys in Dallas.

I now they sound very sincere like they care very much, but please for your own sake don't deal with them unless it is through a lawyer. There are many of us on this forum that know the company very well so we are speaking from experience. Please protect yourself.

 

[Vspeeds]

I now they sound very sincere like they care very much, but please for your own sake don't deal with them unless it is through a lawyer. There are many of us on this forum that know the company very well so we are speaking from experience. Please protect yourself.

Very True.

Make sure you have a lawyer & sue them. Cuz they will definitely "stab you in the back"

AJI=Back Stabbers

 

[hammer2]

Amen!

 

[WillFlyFoCookie]

Dan I am a better man and pilot for having known you and flown with you! You always lived life to it's very fullest and not just anyone can say that. You continue to be an inspiration to me in so many aspects of my life and will certainly be missed. I will never forget you!

Your Sundance Brother,

Ryan

 

[oceandude]

Being an ex-freight dawg. I just wanted to say I am very sorry for your loss.

 

[dshghs]

Autumn and I would like to thank everyone who donated to our families. Fly safe guys, we will keep you all in our thoughts and prayers.

Elizabeth Hughes, Autumn Patty and Families

 

[joe_pilot]

I just heard about this. As an ex freight dog, a pilot and as a friend, I want to say I am very sorry for your loss. I don't know what else to say except that if you need anything, please pm me.

Fly Safe,

-Jp

 

[Vspeeds]

Soon Ameristar's luck is gonna run out. The FAA will and probably already sees a pattern here.....a lear crash almost every two years.....Hope they would look into AJI's SHODDY maintenance.....

 

[hammer2]

Why? Look at Texas jet and grand air. it took years to shut them down. wait their still in business.

 

[I Hate Freight]

Why? Look at Texas jet and grand air. it took years to shut them down. wait their still in business.

Look at Texas Jet and GrandAir, it took years to shut them down. Wait, they're still in business.

 

[pilotyip]

Ameristar may be facing other problems. I am even getting Ameristar resumes, there may be a mass exit in process?

 

[Daytonaflyer]

I think the mass exit has been happening all year here. Since I started over a year ago, we've gone from +70 pilots down to about 28. Now we have as many airplanes as pilots on the 135 side.
It's like I said on another thread: there are better paying jobs, with better schedules, better airplanes, and better treatment available to us now. I don't know what they're gonna do. They can't seem to hold onto the new guys who are still under contract either.

 

[Rouge Warrior]

QOL is sufferring, pay could be better, and everyone except the swedes have there resume out.

 

[Extrascorp]

...and everyone except the swedes...

You mean "the Fab Swedish Duet"? the ones that play serenades...?

 

[RedEye1]

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[I Hate Freight]

They can't seem to hold onto the new guys who are still under contract either.

not to mention that most training contracts hold up in court as well as toilet paper.

 

[I Hate Freight]

Couple of recent job postings

Upgrade at skywest is going 1.5 years in the CRJ now, about 25K first year and 40K second year until upgrade.

If they were smart, which they're not, and they wanted to attract some really good candidates they would offer second-year pay to anyone who is currently employed with a Part 121 airline and has been there for at least two years.

It's the first year pay which keeps experienced pilots from jumping ship to another regional. I starved my first year here and I would never do it again. Besides, that 1.5 year upgrade can dry up in a second.

 

[Troy208]

Thank you

Thanks Dan for believing in me. Thank you Beth for all you have done for me and my family through those rough times in San Juan. Your family are always in our thoughts and prayers.

God bless.

Greg and Tessa

 

[TxPilot0878]

Ameristar may be facing other problems. I am even getting Ameristar resumes, there may be a mass exit in process?

R.H., You never miss a chance getting a low shot at Ameristar do you??? Hold yourself to a hire....I meant HIGHER standard!
Hey question....I was wondering if there was a chance at increase in pay on your 135 side if you weren't shuttling your DC-9 crews around in a Falcon and just having them airline like everyone else???....point is if they are timing out in Baton Rouge...then things can't be any better over there....can they?!?!?!? *CT*

Tex

 

[Extrascorp]

I think the mass exit has been happening all year here. Since I started over a year ago, we've gone from +70 pilots down to about 28. Now we have as many airplanes as pilots on the 135 side.

It is because Ameristar didn't take delivery of the 747's...

 

[100-1/2]

Autumn and Elizabeth,

Please, accept my families' prayers for you as you learn to cope and live on with only the memories of your helpmates, best friends and fathers. They sound like Good Men that will be sorely missed.

You will both need an attorney. You may limit your expenses by sharing one attorney with the proper credentials for each applicable jurisdiction(s). I am a vendor that supplies air charter services to AJI and am required to carry hefty insurance coverages for my aircraft because their customers require the same. At a minimum, there is $100,000.00 available for the loss of each of your husbands AND regardless of fault or findings by the FAA and NTSB. Depending on the coverages, AJI opts for on each aircraft type, there could be significantly more. You will need an attorney familiar with disecting the underwriters' policies to determine the entitlements. It would be a good idea to verify the attorney has significant litigation background in aviation casualty claims. This is the only way AJI will know you are serious.

It is good to adhere to much of the advice posted before. I only learned of your loss tonight and feel compelled to chime in. I am not championing anyone else but you. Do your research. Find the right person for the job, get references and referrals. DO NOT work with AJI's representative. You are YOUR ONLY ADVOCATE. The only way to assure proper representation FOR YOU is if YOU are paying them. If it hasn't begun already, you will both be bombarded with TORT lame-os looking for a quick settlement form AJI and after their fees are covered, you might remain with a year's salary. A good attorney will review the policy and have their expenses covered by AJI as would any of AJI's customers filing a claim for any work that was on board an AJI hull lost in an accident IN ADDITION TO: loss of productivity from any shipment delayed by the loss. In the event litigation is required (highly unlikely as this is what the insurance is designed to prevent) those expenses too, would be covered by the policy. THE INSURANCE UNDERWRITER DOES NOT WANT TO GO TO COURT!!! But, they will attempt to low-ball the value of your husbands lives and reduce it to a salary issue rather than what is written in the policy for casualty coverages you are entitled to.

Pray about who you would have represent you and DO NOT MAKE ANY DECISIONS WHATSOEVER under EMOTIONAL STRESS or PRESSURE!!! FROM ANYONE. Even from yourself.

THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT TO YOUR CLAIM!!!

SLEEP ON EVERY DECISION!

You are wonderful Mothers of your children. You will do very well for them and find time to take yourselves on Dates with memories of Terry and Dan. It will be difficult, but not impossible. I have every confidence and faith that when you both married, became and started families and lasted the tests of Pilot Families, that if anyone could rise above the circumstance, it is people just like you.

Most of all,

Laugh.

Cry.

Live.



God Bless,
100-1/2

 

[stupidpilot]

100 &1/2 you said it better than anyone else. Absolutely do not trust Ameristar!