Ameristar Fatal Crash Last Night

[Golden Falcon]

From the pix it looks like they descended into level terrain, as opposed to hitting rising terrain...something distracted them...or happened to the airplane...

 

[ACT700]

I hate to see this happen to great guys. R.I.P. from a fellow frieght dog and god bless their families.

I hate to see this to anyone, even not so great guys.

 

[Superpilot92]

FALCON20DRIVER YOU ARE A VERY CRUEL PERSON. SOMETIMES THE WIVES ARE ON AS WELL. TO ALL OTHERS THANK YOU AND YOUR PRAYERS ARE APPRECIATED. IF ANTBODY WANTS TO SHARE STORIES OR GET UPDATES YOU CAN E-MAIL ME AT swnhc@yahoo>com OR CALL 972-757-7656 I MAY NOT ANWER ALL CALLS BUT I WILL TRY. THANKS FOR ALL THE LOVE. AUTUMN PATTY (TP'S WIFE)

God Bless You and your families.

 

[Freight Jock]

FUND for Dan and Terry's families

I would like to host a fund for Dan and Terry's families. Anyone who is interested in contributing, please send me an email to [email protected] with the amount you would like to contribute. I will then email you instructions for where to send the funds. The information and amount of money of each person participating will be kept strictly confidential. The deadline for contributing will be February 2nd.

Once the funds are raised, I will send a check of equal value to both families. Also included will be a card with the names of all who contribute. Each person contributing will receive an email from me letting you know that the check and card have been sent and the total amount of money raised.

Open your wallets and your hearts!

Freight Jock

 

[cruxx@9]

My heart and prayers go out to the loved ones left behind. A truely sad day for all freight dogs (past and present).

T.P. and I went around and around on here a few times, but I always respected him and everyone that flies on bat patrol. I enjoied our posts and we had a few PM's. He seemed like a great guy, someone I would like to fly with and share a cold one with.

I flew for Ameristar and other freight companies in the past. I've been in and out of Mexico and Guadalajara many times in the past. I agree this is not the "I would have, never do this or that.." I agree that this is not the place or time to figure out what happened or how you would have not let it happen to you etc. I know I got sucked into doing things that later I look back on and can't believe that I got away with in Falcons and Lears. That and flying in other countries is not the US. I've personally had the Mexican ATC try to kill me three specific times. Flying is a very dangerous profession, one that is easy to take for granted. I'm not saying he did, but I know I have been complacent at times, many of us have.

The only two people that know exactly what happened are going to share it only with the other angels now.

Rest in Peace.

"To fly, west my friend, is a flight we all must take for a final check." author unknown.

 

[737AV8TOR]

Daytonaflyer!

I don't know where you get these rumors from:

It was also determined that their heading was approximately 70 degrees off their assigned heading at the time of impact.

Please don't post heading guesses until we hear some more accurate information!!
(Tapes between ATC and the plane and radar pictures)

My prayers goes out to TP's and DH's families.

 

[flyinloki]

That is some interesting news. Witness said that the plane was on fire before it hit the ground.

 

[cherry20's]

Good article to see. I didn't think it was CFIT, good to see some proof that it probably was the airplane. RIP fr8dogs!

 

[hawk16e]

VSI9-- our hearts go out to you.


Freight Jock, Thanks

Lonnie

 

[frog_flyer]

Any word for funeral arrangements for TP? I haven't seen anything in the obits..

 

[Daytonaflyer]

I just received a correction in the information PM'd to me. It appears the airplane did not turn heading until after impact. The elevation is evidently correct. Of course it is still under investigation. I received this information from Ameristar management.

Freight Jock,
That's a very nice thing you're doing. Thank you.

 

[Smoking Man]

Good tailwinds guys.

I wish peace during this trying time to your family, and friends.

 

[TxPilot0878]

How dare anyone judge Dan and Terry's ability to fly that aircraft. I have had numerous problems with N444TW icluding pressurization and fuel leaks...all fixed but flying for someone who doesn't believe preventative manaintence is the key!
My heart goes out to their families!
Easy to judge from the sidelines...but if you have never flown a Lear....going from altitude to a warm humid temp....well the window wouldn't allow you to see the ground...in daylight less likely at night! The bleed air unfortunately cant keep up in a way that if you rolled over...would provide you with the references to keep you safe....likely that "CFIT" was the problem...but a cool new word for some!
Lets let the FAA and NTSB do their job and figure out the problem...the sad fact is a Capt. with over 9000 hrs. and sharp F.O. have left families behind!...I guarantee you based on the hole in the ground (which CFIT would be a glance...is based on somehting more!!!)...that something else went wrong!

http://www.courts.mo.gov/courts/pub...b1e8d357d36cb8b986256e21004f59e9?OpenDocument
http://www.miami.com/multimedia/miami/news/archive/deadlyexpress/partthree/pilotprint.html
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http://www.guadalajarareporter.com/fullcover.cfm?id=12

Check these out!

Regards to their families they were great sticks!!!!​

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[wolfpackpilot]

Lets let the FAA and NTSB do their job and figure out the problem

Lets hope they can... Mexico doesnt always roll out the red carpet for foreign governments.

Pony up guys... Anytime this happens, the families should get no less than 25K from donations. A new thread with a sticky should be posted with the fund info.

Wolfpackpilot
(Ram Air Frieght, 90's)

 

[Captain X]

http://www.courts.mo.gov/courts/pub...b1e8d357d36cb8b986256e21004f59e9?OpenDocument

I remember that one...happened right after I got there. After that, no one would do flight idle descents.