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The_Russian said:
Surreal. Absolutely surreal.

Now I know why a scab is a scab. Now I know why there is so much hatred for these types of pilots. I hope that none of you ever have to experience what I had to experience last night. They walked right in front of us. They betrayed us. Some of them were way too young to throw everything away. We begged them to reconsider. When pleading with them failed, the insults began. Emotions were high and some of our actions were almost natural or instinctive. I couldn't believe what I was saying to my once fellow crewmembers.
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Good luck guys. I wish I could be down there walking with you.
 
wickedride said:
This the data for N88NJ-- Good Luck Guys


Registered Owner
NATIONAL JETS INC
Street3495 SW 9TH AVE
CityFORT LAUDERDALE
StateFLORIDA
CountyBROWARD
Zip Code33315-3401
CountryUNITED STATES
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Time Out.... I have flown some charter and sometimes you do not know who you are picking up or for why.... Careful on attaching anything to guys flying a Charter gig when they are told fly to ABC and pick up 5 to XYZ.... Unless they knew the situation and knew what it meant....which chances are they are absolutly clueless on all this Strike stuff.....don't throw stones at them....Be careful
 
RedDogC130 said:
Time Out.... I have flown some charter and sometimes you do not know who you are picking up or for why.... Careful on attaching anything to guys flying a Charter gig when they are told fly to ABC and pick up 5 to XYZ.... Unless they knew the situation and knew what it meant....which chances are they are absolutly clueless on all this Strike stuff.....don't throw stones at them....Be careful
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Well said! It has nothing to do with National Jets as they are a 135 operator and were running a charter. Now the people in the back; that is a different story. I hope it all works out for you.
 
j3driver said:
Well said! It has nothing to do with National Jets as they are a 135 operator and were running a charter. Now the people in the back; that is a different story. I hope it all works out for you.
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Absolutely correct. The Lear drivers neither crossed the picket line nor performed struck work. It's the human waste they're hauling who are the scabs.

Hang in there, Amerijet guys.
 
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Paradoxus said:
There's an FBO I won't be using at FLL anymore. Bastards....
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Like RedDog said: The lear 35 is a charter. They have nothing to do with the strike. The FBO is also out of the picture. The passengers on the lear are the ones you want to target, not the FBO or the Charter company. Look at it this way: If the scabs bought tickets on Delta, United etc. would you expect those pilots to refuse to fly? Target the scabs. Put their names on the list and they will have to live with it from this date forward.
 
Metro752 said:
Yeah, Iran gives weapons to Hezbollah and we only blow up Hezbollah.
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And by your reckoning, we should all boycott GM if GM shipped a part on an AmeriJet flight?

Keep it focused, Metro. Listen to the union leadership. They define what is considered struck work, and what actions define a scab. Don't paint your red brush strokes too broad- when the whole canvas is red, you can no longer distinguish the offensive images.
 
THE RUSSIAN ask me to post this, currently at 7:25pm eastern time there is a Cargo Jet (COMPANY NAME) from Canada that is loading up Amerijet freight. If anyone knows pilots at this company let them know they are about to SCAB!!!!
 
For what it's worth...CargoJet is a canadian 727 night freight airline, and they have several routes in the US. They have one or two planes flying in the BAX (Burlington/Schenker) system. Rumor has it that they're not doing very well financially.
It looks like they're desperate for work, and are willing to fly stuck freight. I don't believe they belong to a union.

Also, who updates the "scab list" with the newest scabs. I have a copy that's a couple years old that I carry aroud, and I'm guessing it's fairly up to date as there haven't' been many strikes recently.
Hopefully we can get these latest scab names published and start distributing it.

Good Luck AmeriJet Pilots
 
You do not get to change the list

Midnight Flyer said:
For what it's worth...CargoJet is a canadian 727 night freight airline, and they have several routes in the US. They have one or two planes flying in the BAX (Burlington/Schenker) system. Rumor has it that they're not doing very well financially.
It looks like they're desperate for work, and are willing to fly stuck freight. I don't believe they belong to a union.

Also, who updates the "scab list" with the newest scabs. I have a copy that's a couple years old that I carry aroud, and I'm guessing it's fairly up to date as there haven't' been many strikes recently.
Hopefully we can get these latest scab names published and start distributing it.

Good Luck AmeriJet Pilots
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If you notice it is an ALPA list that everybody is carrying around. This is a closly guarded product that is added to only when you cross a line and fly an aircraft that should have been flown by the striking pilots. This fantasy of struck work has it's origins in the trucking industry and was only brought into the airline buss by the UPS parcel pu33ies. No one I know in the pax side really cares about this definition that somehow made this jump, as evidenced by the lack of names being added to the real list.

Now the pilots that fly an actual Amerijet aircraft that is a completely different story. But unfortunately if you reference the list you will notice that behind each name is a reason that they made the list, find one that refers to a non-ALPA carrier.

Just my .02
 
75 Driver said:
If you notice it is an ALPA list that everybody is carrying around. This is a closly guarded product that is added to only when you cross a line and fly an aircraft that should have been flown by the striking pilots. This fantasy of struck work has it's origins in the trucking industry and was only brought into the airline buss by the UPS parcel pu33ies. No one I know in the pax side really cares about this definition that somehow made this jump, as evidenced by the lack of names being added to the real list.

Now the pilots that fly an actual Amerijet aircraft that is a completely different story. But unfortunately if you reference the list you will notice that behind each name is a reason that they made the list, find one that refers to a non-ALPA carrier.

Just my .02
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I would check that definition of struck as the term was in use long before UPS was an airline. There are people on the list that operated aircraft in a situation similar to what the canadian company are doing. If somebody is moving passengers or freight for a struck company they meet the definition of the term scab....the Lear jet charter would not.
 
Prove it

I can not find them anywhere. I am not taking sides here I am just pointing out the facts. I have have had this debate with numerous folks that have participated in several job actions and none of them have been able to find any additions to the list that has circulated for years.

If we take your definition then certainly every Delta pilot (Comair strike) and almost every other pilot for a major would then be a scab as passengers were re-routed during the various job actions over the years.

Heck you might be a scab just because you let a car ahead of you on the freeway in a traffic jam just because it happened to have a scab driving. My point is you are painting with a wide brush that quite frankly I do not believe most are ready to paint with.
 
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Well i don't have a list but i was involved in the mid 70's with strike at a commuter. Guys from a company that picked up the stuck carriers people at our gates were on the list at one time...later time for a bike ride ..
 
How about the striking Amerijet pilots publish the names of the scab Amerijet pilots and post on this website. Lets get the names out asap. We all need to know the names so we can deny them jumpseats and treat them like the scabs thay are. Maybe that will discourage others that are considering crossing the line.
Good luck guys.
 
Mach88 said:
How about the striking Amerijet pilots publish the names of the scab Amerijet pilots and post on this website. Lets get the names out asap. We all need to know the names so we can deny them jumpseats and treat them like the scabs thay are. Maybe that will discourage others that are considering crossing the line.
Good luck guys.
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For instance, if a Amerijet commuter is flying out of CLT or RDU to MIA/FLL or PBI (a "random" example of course) one should be careful to make sure the required certificates and paperwork are carried. Hate to see a Captain carry someone not properly documented.
 
Are you saying that a person who works for a company that flies freight is a scab if they fly freight that would have been flown by Amerijet? Get a life!!!! If Amerijet pilots are on strike than the customers will just move their goods another way. Its not your freight and you always run the risk of losing business when a strike occurs. No different than when Eastern went on strike years ago and the passengers just moved to a different airline. They weren't considered struck passengers where they? I hope the best for all of my fellow pilots but before you start posting peoples names you better think about what a scab is. By all means if you see somebody flying your aircraft while you are on strike than post their names but if you post names of pilots who work for another company trying to get them on some scab list that nobody really cares about, you have problems.
 
j3driver said:
Are you saying that a person who works for a company that flies freight is a scab if they fly freight that would have been flown by Amerijet? Get a life!!!! If Amerijet pilots are on strike than the customers will just move their goods another way. Its not your freight and you always run the risk of losing business when a strike occurs. No different than when Eastern went on strike years ago and the passengers just moved to a different airline. They weren't considered struck passengers where they? I hope the best for all of my fellow pilots but before you start posting peoples names you better think about what a scab is. By all means if you see somebody flying your aircraft while you are on strike than post their names but if you post names of pilots who work for another company trying to get them on some scab list that nobody really cares about, you have problems.
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Disagree.
Next.
If your flying their routes because they are unable due to a labor dispute then that makes you a scab.
 
JOHN M was the biggest prick EVER in aviation.

Flying a package on your route that was going to be on a striking airline is not flying struck work. Flying a new city pair into where a striking airline went is flying struck work.

Please don't cave Amerijet. I hope to God you guys get the company to stop screwing you over. I worked there and could not bear to stay and fight the fight so I left for greener pastures. Please don't cave on this and make me regret leaving.

JOHN M is the biggest piece of crap to ever fly....ever.
 

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