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[chppr5]

You guys should not sign off on this BS TA. Not enough in my opinion and for five years...c'mon!

This is not traditional Sec 6 negotiations, The MOU requires that the JCBA be concluded via a cost-neutral arbitration process. Tough spot to be in.

 

[OARfan]

This is not traditional Sec 6 negotiations, The MOU requires that the JCBA be concluded via a cost-neutral arbitration process. Tough spot to be in.

Not really. Take the pay raise in 11 months that was already agreed to without having to give Parker anything. I don't think the guys care if they lose 2 years LOS when out for 13 years. Oh, and the new hires will end up going anywhere else but here at 40/hr.

 

[General Lee]

Not really. Take the pay raise in 11 months that was already agreed to without having to give Parker anything. I don't think the guys care if they lose 2 years LOS when out for 13 years. Oh, and the new hires will end up going anywhere else but here at 40/hr.

The problem is Doug knows there are plenty of Regional pilots that will still be giddy when hired at AA because it will be ten times better than current conditions at the sinking Regionals. He'll happily take Envoy, AW, and PDT pilots for years who just want to leave their current jobs and aren't looking at year 1 pay, rather subsequent years.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Bringupthebird]

A "UNITY - APA" bag tag on a US east bag is like a "Turbo" badge on a Yugo.

 

[EatinRamen]

Its a Faggot airline with a Faggot Mormon CEO.

Moderator,

It's not ok to post four letter words like "sh!t" but it's ok to post this word without any mod intervention or at least censorship of the word?

Thanks,

EatinRamen

 

[Whine Lover]

Perhaps you'd prefer...."Cork Socker" or "Sock Tucker"...?





YKW

 

[Ex737Driver]

Perhaps you'd prefer...."Cork Socker" or "Sock Tucker"...?





YKW

I always thought it ended with "it", not "ot". Must be a redneck thing.

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

or you could simply call him a "shirt Lifter" very delicate term

 

[f15boomer]

No he is not a Latter Day Saint

 

[WSurf]

Vote no!!!

 

[Bringupthebird]

Why? Please give your detailed explanation of what will happen after a NO vote.

Hey I got it, let's vote out APA and replace it with another union and then claim we were not party to the MTA and are not bound by it! - Problem solved, right?

Where's Bradford's number?

 

[LearLove]

Why? Please give your detailed explanation of what will happen after a NO vote.

Hey I got it, let's vote out APA and replace it with another union and then claim we were not party to the MTA and are not bound by it! - Problem solved, right?

Where's Bradford's number?

O crap, he's on to us. Quick execute operation purple monkey. Repeat operation purple monkey....

 

[WSurf]

Are the 190 rates like Delta's 717 rates???

 

[Green]

Not sure about 190 rates.
Company offer:

A320 CA
12 year 2015
$228/hr
85 hours per month including 401k= $270,000
2019
257/hr
@85/month including 401k contribution=$304,000

B757/767 CA
12 Year 2015
242/hr @85/month including 401k=$286,000
2019
$272/hr @ 85 month including 401k=$321,000


B777/A330 CA
2015
285/hr @85/month incl 401k=$337,000
2019
$320/hr @ 85 month including 401k=$379,000

 

[Green]

A320 12 Year FO
2015 $155/hour @85 hour including 401k= $183,000
2019 $175/hour @85 hour including 401k= $207,000

B757/767 12 Year FO
2015 $165 @85/month incl 401k=$195,000
2019 $186 @85/month incl 401k= $220,000

A330/777 12 Year FO
2015 $194 @85/month incl 401k= $230,000
2019 $219 @85/month incl 401k=$260,000

potential career progression pay rates- add 16% for 401k
2015 first year FO A3220 pay $75/hr
2016 second year FO A320 $116/hr
2017 third year FO A320 $140/hr
2018 4th year B767 FO pay $156/hr
2019 5th year A330/777 FO pay $195/hr