American Contract TA - Scope Clause

[taylor01]

Do anyone know what the scope clause was for american and what the proposal is under the TA signed last night? thx

 

[LearLove]

Do anyone know what the scope clause was for american and what the proposal is under the TA signed last night? thx

it blows - basically what i got after reading that part. unless of course your for more outsourcing of mainline flying.

 

[chjack]

it blows - basically what i got after reading that part. unless of course your for more outsourcing of mainline flying.

can you be more specific, please?

 

[BUDDHA145]

it blows - basically what i got after reading that part. unless of course your for more outsourcing of mainline flying.

Wait, I though you guys are getting rid of 2/50 seats for 1/76 seat A/C!! Or that change??


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[Golden Falcon]

Wait, I though you guys are getting rid of 2/50 seats for 1/76 seat A/C!! Or that change??


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That's Delta!!

 

[cbrown1]

So anyone have the deets?

 

[PCL_128]

Basically, aircraft with up to 79 seats are allowed, and the number of them is based upon mainline fleet size. The total outsourced regional feed would be considerably larger than Delta's if AMR had the same mainline fleet size.

 

[aa73]

WE DID NOT SIGN ANY TA....

The APA BOD voted by 9-7 to send it to the membership for a vote. The vote would be due in August.

I'm hoping - no, I'm praying - we vote NO by a big fat margin! It is a turd and will result in AA becoming the Mesa of the majors (no offense to you Mesa dudes.)

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

WE DID NOT SIGN ANY TA....

The APA BOD voted by 9-7 to send it to the membership for a vote. The vote would be due in August.

I'm hoping - no, I'm praying - we vote NO by a big fat margin! It is a turd and will result in AA becoming the Mesa of the majors (no offense to you Mesa dudes.)

So classy. Looking forward to my new 900

 

[Flyby1206]

http://restructuringamr.com/documents/APATermSheetandTentativeAgreementComparison.pdf

Give up lots of E170/175s through this TA, or take your chances with the BK judge.

 

[Fliteidol]

So classy. Looking forward to my new 900

:uzi:Thats the height of your ambitionuke:.

aa73 et al, good luck to you, I know you will do the right thing.:beer:

 

[enuffalready]

http://restructuringamr.com/documents/APATermSheetandTentativeAgreementComparison.pdf

Give up lots of E170/175s through this TA, or take your chances with the BK judge.

item1 -judge was going to rule for company if "something" wasn't sent for a vote.

item 2- Parker wants 84 seats vs 79

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

:uzi:Thats the height of your ambitionuke:.

aa73 et al, good luck to you, I know you will do the right thing.:beer:

Quite the opposite. Unfortantly when mainline declares BK this is the fallout. Just embracing the facts of the current biz. I suspect UCAL is next, 500 million loss last qtr ? MGMT will always have a trump card Unfortunatly.

 

[BUDDHA145]

That's Delta!!

Ups.... Sorry thx!!!


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[Andy]

suspect UCAL is next, 500 million loss last qtr ?

Hmmm. $162MM of that was due to integration costs.

In their latest 8K, dated 28 Jun, it shows 2Q unrestricted liquidity grew from $7.8B to $8.1B. Not exactly a BK candidate.

But the best stat that I liked seeing is the 2Q reduction in regional flying by 3.1%. Regional flying is a money loser; converting 2RJs to 1 Airbus or 737 on city pairs is a money maker.

 

[Speedtape]

Hmmm. $162MM of that was due to integration costs.

In their latest 8K, dated 28 Jun, it shows 2Q unrestricted liquidity grew from $7.8B to $8.1B. Not exactly a BK candidate.

But the best stat that I liked seeing is the 2Q reduction in regional flying by 3.1%. Regional flying is a money loser; converting 2RJs to 1 Airbus or 737 on city pairs is a money maker.

That simple huh? Is that your final answer?

 

[Andy]

That simple huh? Is that your final answer?

Not quite that simple but close enough. What do you know about the CASM differential between different aircraft guages? Hint - I'm not referring to instruments.

 

[Uncle Bort]

Jeff, his peeps and the BOD have already locked in generational wealth. Why should they possibly care about a contract or the success of UAL. Despite outsourcing to smaller jets being a consistent money looser they will continue out of spite. This group will never admit an error under any circumstances.

 

[Citjok]

WE DID NOT SIGN ANY TA....

The APA BOD voted by 9-7 to send it to the membership for a vote. The vote would be due in August.

I'm hoping - no, I'm praying - we vote NO by a big fat margin! It is a turd and will result in AA becoming the Mesa of the majors (no offense to you Mesa dudes.)

What choice you guys have? Really.