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ALPA: Time to learn from this vote.

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Bdfg1 said:
You are right. He should stick with professional tactics such as denying a jumpseat. THAT WILL TEACH YOU!!!! YOU CAN TURN AROUND THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH ONLY ONE JUMPSEAT DENIAL!!!! DO IT!!!!
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He won't be the only one denying jumpseats.
 
John Pennekamp said:
SkyWest pilots, don't be asking for our UNION PILOT jumpseats, and good luck moving on to a UNION mainline carrier.
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JP..... this is exactly the attitude that is killing ALPA....

Skywest pilots are all welcome on my jumpseat.....

JP if I find out you are denying Skywest pilots, then you will not ride my jumpseat, and I know who you are.....

Blame ALPA for being a total failure rather than the Skywest pilots.....

For those of you who don't know JP, he was a member of the ASA MEC..... the second most number of votes belonged to him...... Would you want him speaking on your behalf????
 
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JoeMerchant said:
JP..... this is exactly the attitude that is killing ALPA....

Skywest pilots are all welcome on my jumpseat.....

JP if I find out you are denying Skywest pilots, then you will not ride my jumpseat, and I know who you are.....

Blame ALPA for being a total failure rather than the Skywest pilots.....

For those of you who don't know JP, he was a member of the ASA MEC..... the second most number of votes belonged to him...... Would you want him speaking on your behalf????
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Ooooh, go for it. I don't commute. And why would I subject myself to a two hour captive lecture on how much ALPA sucks by voluntarily locking myself in a cockpit with you? Why would anybody? You must be out of your mind. So what if you know who I am... who doesn't?!!!

And thanks for the slam. You really think that I care what anyone thinks of me after all of these years, especially you? Go ahead and tell them... the ones who hate me will still hate me and the ones who like me will still like me. I'm not at work to make friends, I'm there to make money. Yes, I had the second most number of votes and couldn't even use them because of politics. But I never even saw you there. Wonder why... tell me how the Jackson 5 did? How's that glass house, John?
 
I think it would be very interesting to break down the vote trends from all the Mesa FO's and CA's who left Mesa to go to SKYW over the past 2 years in fairly significant numbers.

Did their experience at Mesa w/ALPA cause them to lean towards putting it on the SKYW property, lean against it, or was it a non-issue?

Course, we'll never know. I honestly don't know the answer, but it would be most interesting. It would certainly give a lot of insight on how ALPA needs to re-visit this in a year or two.

There IS one Trump card ALPA has though . . . If they negotiate a gold-plated, rock solid, industry leading contract in record time at a dump like Mesa (currently contract-amendable), they'll be a shoe in at all sorts of airlines.

The opposite may also be true.
 
Soverytired said:
I think it would be very interesting to break down the vote trends from all the Mesa FO's and CA's who left Mesa to go to SKYW over the past 2 years in fairly significant numbers.

Did their experience at Mesa w/ALPA cause them to lean towards putting it on the SKYW property, lean against it, or was it a non-issue?

Course, we'll never know. I honestly don't know the answer, but it would be most interesting. It would certainly give a lot of insight on how ALPA needs to re-visit this in a year or two.

There IS one Trump card ALPA has though . . . If they negotiate a gold-plated, rock solid, industry leading contract in record time at a dump like Mesa (currently contract-amendable), they'll be a shoe in at all sorts of airlines.

The opposite may also be true.
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THe question is.... are there pilots with enough courage and character to step up to theplate and use the ALPA resource to get it done?

Any one out there with courage.... or are you just waiting for the ALPA fairy to come by and make your life wonderful....
 
The misinformed pilots are the ones with expectations of ALPA. One only has to look at Mesa and Pinnacle to see the affects of ALPA. Mesa and Pinnacle would still have some of the worst work rules in the industry without ALPA's help. Glad to see the SkyWest pilots opened their eyes to this fact while keeping their dues.
 
Goose Egg said:
Disregard...
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If the sentiments expressed on Flight Info were the prevailing sentiment of the actual pilot population, SkyWest, and Colgan would both be ALPA. This board
predominatly is a union sympathizing, out of touch minority. Come here for entertainment not facts!
 
Great work ALPA....you lose and lose fair and square. Instead of working to fix the issues at hand, let the zealots begin the destructive work of denying jumpseats and acting like typical union thugs.

Good luck with that!

A350
 
A350 said:
Great work ALPA....you lose and lose fair and square. Instead of working to fix the issues at hand, let the zealots begin the destructive work of denying jumpseats and acting like typical union thugs.

Good luck with that!

A350
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What are you doing to help?
 
SkyWest pilots, don't be asking for our UNION PILOT jumpseats, and good luck moving on to a UNION mainline carrier.
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Ohh shut the f... up - many people still voted for it.
 
SkyWest pilots, don't be asking for our UNION PILOT jumpseats, and good luck moving on to a UNION mainline carrier.

Didn't they teach you to play nice in Kindergarten?
 
CopilotDoug said:
SkyWest pilots, don't be asking for our UNION PILOT jumpseats, and good luck moving on to a UNION mainline carrier.

Didn't they teach you to play nice in Kindergarten?
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Didn't your parents teach you to carry your share of the load? Be contributor rather than a hinderence?

Right now ALPA is working to fix the FMLA legislation... something the SKYW pilots will benefit from... but something the SKYW aren't contributing to...

I'd rather give than take...
 
Rez O. Lewshun said:
Didn't your parents teach you to carry your share of the load? Be contributor rather than a hinderence?

Right now ALPA is working to fix the FMLA legislation... something the SKYW pilots will benefit from... but something the SKYW aren't contributing to...

I'd rather give than take...
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Are you saying your fellow pilots can go to hell if they don't agree with your beliefs?
 
CopilotDoug said:
Are you saying your fellow pilots can go to hell if they don't agree with your beliefs?
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Nope... not at all....

But I am going to call them out when some of us are working our tails off the protect and promote this profession and others (SKYW pilots and many ALPA pilots) sit around and make excuses and then chide the very protection they scoff...

Do you need a Col Jessup rant?
 

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