ALPA fails at JB

[RiddleEagle18]

If an inhouse was tried next I think it would pass 80/20

 

[Flyer1015]

What is M&A?

2. TWA and American. - Sued and Convicted of DFR

What is DFR?

 

[Tripower455]

No, and I don't think ALPA is the only way to get a CBA .... Right ?
An ALPA CBA usually has holes in it large enough to walk through.

You should see a SWAPA CBA! Talk about getting steamrolled!

 

[charlie2]

What is M&A?



What is DFR?

Merger/Aquisition

Duty of Fair Representation

 

[charlie2]

You should see a SWAPA CBA! Talk about getting steamrolled!

I know...poor guys!

 

[Flyer1015]

Merger/Aquisition

Duty of Fair Representation

Thanks!

 

[LearLove]

good - F' ALPA. Now go form your own inhouse union

 

[Caveman]

good - F' ALPA. Now go form your own inhouse union

Where the F' have you been? In-house was tried and failed. Now this. What's next? Teamsters? No thank you.

 

[charlie2]

Where the F' have you been? In-house was tried and failed. Now this. What's next? Teamsters? No thank you.

It was tried? I guess that's why I thought you had a CBA. Anyone is better than none in an M/A.

 

[Flyer1015]

If there is no union, whether ALPA, Teamsters, or in-house, what exactly happens in a M&A scenario?

Doesn't ALPA have some bylaws that address a scenario of merging an ALPA carrier with one that is non-union?

 

[Caveman]

If there is no union, whether ALPA, Teamsters, or in-house, what exactly happens in a M&A scenario?

Doesn't ALPA have some bylaws that address a scenario of merging an ALPA carrier with one that is non-union?

Bond-McC states that a non-union pilot group will be represented by their management in a merger/acquisition. Guess how that's gonna work out?

 

[charlie2]

If there is no union, whether ALPA, Teamsters, or in-house, what exactly happens in a M&A scenario?

Doesn't ALPA have some bylaws that address a scenario of merging an ALPA carrier with one that is non-union?

Staple them I think.

 

[charlie2]

Bond-McC states that a non-union pilot group will be represented by their management in a merger/acquisition. Guess how that's gonna work out?

Excellent for management...golden parachutes/bonuses/free first class pos space for life...are you implying that's not good?

 

[Fins Up]

An in-house union would have been nice if the company indicated it would take any sort of 'friendly' approach to it. They didn't. As Blue Dude said, what's next? I wouldn't vote for the IBT aka 'Dumstahs union'.

It's sad. Regardless of all ALPA's shortcomings, I am realizing today that right now I could have access to the best safety, medical, and legal representation a pilot could want if he gets his butt in a sling. Now I have only jetblue's jv legal squad. I could maybe contribute to a group that is responsible for the working and safety rules by which my pilot group lives under. Now all I can say is, sorry guys, I tried.

 

[charlie2]

An in-house union would have been nice if the company indicated it would take any sort of 'friendly' approach to it. They didn't. As Blue Dude said, what's next? I wouldn't vote for the IBT aka 'Dumstahs union'.

It's sad. Regardless of all ALPA's shortcomings, I am realizing today that right now I could have access to the best safety, medical, and legal representation a pilot could want if he gets his butt in a sling. Now I have only jetblue's jv legal squad. I could maybe contribute to a group that is responsible for the working and safety rules by which my pilot group lives under. Now all I can say is, sorry guys, I tried.

Is there a waiting period to try again? If the numbers are correct it wasn't that far off.