ALPA Defeats Emirates in Rent-A-Code Scheme

[Dumb Pilot]

It's great if you enjoy your current respective jobs abroad, but don't complain if both of you are the only ones speaking English in your cockpits as the rest of the Expats return home in droves. I enjoy flying abroad and seeing new things and places, but I also like returning home after each trip, and not just for 10 days a month in one chunk. If 800 pilots retire in one year (and then each year after that for 3 or 4 more), how long would you have to live in ATL or DTW, and how long would you HAVE TO fly West Coast allnighters? Not long, I'd bet. And, that will happen at all 3 legacies. That is something you and fv will obviously look at, but don't expect to keep your seats. Sorry. Good luck.


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Yeah...! Because of course this will no longer be a cyclical business and there is nothing but continuos growth from here on end....! Right? It is a chunk of 14 days that I enjoy home while traveling business class in one of the top ten airlines in the world, not #49. But with all these Aussies, Kiwis, Brits around here, it seems to me that I already are the only one speaking English around here. Of course, that is until the next downturn....! I have a feeling that the expat market will continue to be very sought after by pilots from the US.

 

[Flopgut]

What if the foreign airline ticket is cheaper?

Seriously? What, like 5 or 10 bucks maybe? Couple hundred?

Here's how much these tickets cost: a lot. Period. This money needs to be spent with US carriers.


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[waveflyer]

Another thread hijacked by the village idiot copying and pasting the same tired delta stuff/anti- brand x stuff-
Boring

What flop said-^^^ our tax money should not be spent buying tickets on airlines that get subsidized help from their governments. Esp governments that get rich off the OPEC scam

 

[General Lee]

Yeah...! Because of course this will no longer be a cyclical business and there is nothing but continuos growth from here on end....! Right? It is a chunk of 14 days that I enjoy home while traveling business class in one of the top ten airlines in the world, not #49. But with all these Aussies, Kiwis, Brits around here, it seems to me that I already are the only one speaking English around here. Of course, that is until the next downturn....! I have a feeling that the expat market will continue to be very sought after by pilots from the US.

So defensive! Wow. You are right about continuous growth here in the States, mainly due to consolidation. How many Majors were flying in the States when you bailed out? 6? Not anymore. How many retirements were coming when you bailed? Looking ahead now, there has to be huge hiring just to cover Age 65 retirements. Watch those Brits and Aussies go back home when they can. And you know the ANA guys love the outsourcing. Oh well, enjoy flying on the 9th best airline back to NRT, while your friends progress at DL and enjoy quality time with their families. Maybe you can learn Japanese and become a management pilot (that might not be allowed for an American) and go to Laos and recruit pilots there when all the rest return to their homelands. Sayonara!


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[Dumb Pilot]

Time will tell........!

#4 just for the record. 5 star rating by Sytrax for 2013.

My time at home is fantastic, thank you for your concern. Keep enjoying that artificial vanilla flavored crap they so call ice cream, covered with that colored chemical topping that can be left unrefrigerated for a couple of years and won't even grow mold on it. I'll keep enjoying desserts by Pierre Herme'

Good luck with that " there is nothing but blue skies ahead" theory.

 

[General Lee]

Time will tell........!

#4 just for the record. 5 star rating by Sytrax for 2013.

My time at home is fantastic, thank you for your concern. Keep enjoying that artificial vanilla flavored crap they so call ice cream, covered with that colored chemical topping that can be left unrefrigerated for a couple of years and won't even grow mold on it. I'll keep enjoying desserts by Pierre Herme'

Good luck with that " there is nothing but blue skies ahead" theory.

Same for you in Japan. Good luck with that and those fancy desserts. That would totally make a commute across the World worth it! Yes!!?!

Konichiwa and sayonara!


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[Flyer1015]

Seriously? What, like 5 or 10 bucks maybe? Couple hundred?

Here's how much these tickets cost: a lot. Period. This money needs to be spent with US carriers.


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Our national budget is in shambles. 5, 10, couple hundred, they need to save wherever they can. If Emirates offers a cheaper ticket than Delta, it is our taxpayer money that should be spent in a cost effective way.

 

[Flopgut]

Our national budget is in shambles. 5, 10, couple hundred, they need to save wherever they can. If Emirates offers a cheaper ticket than Delta, it is our taxpayer money that should be spent in a cost effective way.

Very foolish and shortsighted way to look at the situation. There's them, and there's us. Pick a side. It's just like their oil. We might spend a little more to reduce our dependence on the oil they sell us, but that money would come back to us by a factor of ten if we could put them over the barrel and not us. Not only that, If you remove the dollars the Emir pumps into his airline, there is no cost advantage meaning they do not have cheaper tickets. Going on 20 years being around Houston and I have a lot of friends who have worked in that part of the world for a long time. None of them believe EK is sustainable.


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[Flopgut]

Disdain for US legacies is unbelievable. It's like half the posters on here would like nothing more than for our Country to get out of the big airline business. When these airlines are gone, they're gone. You can grow an EK out of thin air and big dollars but they're a lot more fragile entities and can not do what we need them to do in the future.


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[General Lee]

Disdain for US legacies is unbelievable. It's like half the posters on here would like nothing more than for our Country to get out of the big airline business. When these airlines are gone, they're gone. You can grow an EK out of thin air and big dollars but they're a lot more fragile entities and can not do what we need them to do in the future.


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It is pure jealousy. The remaining legacies will have better wages and unbelievable upward movement as pilots retire in droves at 65 or earlier. Those flying at US LCCs or flying abroad will be left mouth agape.


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[Varmint]

Very foolish and shortsighted way to look at the situation. There's them, and there's us. Pick a side. It's just like their oil. We might spend a little more to reduce our dependence on the oil they sell us, but that money would come back to us by a factor of ten if we could put them over the barrel and not us. Not only that, If you remove the dollars the Emir pumps into his airline, there is no cost advantage meaning they do not have cheaper tickets. Going on 20 years being around Houston and I have a lot of friends who have worked in that part of the world for a long time. None of them believe EK is sustainable.


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Emir.....? You are thinking Qatar not Emirates and you are correct about the Qatari Emir pumping money into his money losing airline. The government of Dubai does not have money to throw at Emirates. Emirates is throwing money at the government of Dubai....quite the opposite. Dubai is operating on loans and there is no more oil.

This isn't about disdain for US carriers. I would love for a US carrier to step up to the plate and provide a quality product but it just isn't happening. Then you have some "jackholes" (their word, not mine) on here who are so shortsighted they can only make senseless comments and insults directed at pilots who chose to work abroad during difficult times rather than stick around at a bottom feeding crap regional. We are all ultimately doing the same thing in the end.....earning a paycheck so we can live. It is just annoying when you have people pretending to know something about something they know nothing about.

In a perfect world, every US carrier that took advantage of bankruptcy code to cut costs while also raping their employees of negotiated pay and benefits should be required to purchase only American made aircraft....but that will never happen.

 

[General Lee]

Emir.....? You are thinking Qatar not Emirates and you are correct about the Qatari Emir pumping money into his money losing airline. The government of Dubai does not have money to throw at Emirates. Emirates is throwing money at the government of Dubai....quite the opposite. Dubai is operating on loans and there is no more oil.

This isn't about disdain for US carriers. I would love for a US carrier to step up to the plate and provide a quality product but it just isn't happening. Then you have some "jackholes" (their word, not mine) on here who are so shortsighted they can only make senseless comments and insults directed at pilots who chose to work abroad during difficult times rather than stick around at a bottom feeding crap regional. We are all ultimately doing the same thing in the end.....earning a paycheck so we can live. It is just annoying when you have people pretending to know something about something they know nothing about.

In a perfect world, every US carrier that took advantage of bankruptcy code to cut costs while also raping their employees of negotiated pay and benefits should be required to purchase only American made aircraft....but that will never happen.

Varmint, the USA is a land of second chances. That's what makes it great. You can go BK and SURVIVE. In the ME, you get thrown in jail after being raped. Am I lying? And, the products are improving.


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[Freebrd]

Same ole Jenny, pathetic.

 

[General Lee]

Same ole Jenny, pathetic.

This from an RJ Pilot who went to Vietnam to get more SIC time?? Say what?


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