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Aloha Airlines' 1Q losses $24M
Monday June 25, 4:07 pm ET
For the first quarter of 2007, Aloha Airlines reported a net loss of $24.2 million.
That compares to a loss of $20 million from January to March 2006. Privately held Aloha reported in a U.S. Transportation Department filing that it has $33.7 million in cash and cash equivalents on hand.
Aloha's total first-quarter operating revenue totaled $88 million. Of that, $59 million was for coach passengers and $7 million for first class.
All three interisland carriers continue to suffer revenue declines this year. Hawaiian Airlines previously reported an $11.9 million first-quarter loss, while Mesa Air Group, parent of go! Airlines, posted a first quarter gain of $8 million but a $24 million second-quarter loss. Mesa officials said operating results for go! were $0.7 million "below plan." Published June 25, 2007 by Pacific Business News
 
So what is this hiring for? Increased flying, retirements, people leaving? Just curious.
 
Freight Dog said:
I imagine for attrition - people leaving and just running chronically short.
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What kind of idiot would want to leave Aloha? Are they getting recalled at United of going to FedEx or something? Fright dog do you know any of tho guys thinking about leaving?

Aloha will always be around and will always have big respect for taking out Johnny O. Nobody will ever mess with Aloha again after mesa leaves.
 
OB-CPO said:
What kind of idiot would want to leave Aloha? Are they getting recalled at United of going to FedEx or something? Fright dog do you know any of tho guys thinking about leaving?

Aloha will always be around and will always have big respect for taking out Johnny O. Nobody will ever mess with Aloha again after mesa leaves.
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people have been recalled at UAL. others have taken some pretty attractive corp. gigs. in the past there were some that went to SWA and alaska as well.
 
OB-CPO said:
What kind of idiot would want to leave Aloha? Are they getting recalled at United of going to FedEx or something? Fright dog do you know any of tho guys thinking about leaving?
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Oh but of course... and you do too. ;)
 
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OK...so how do you apply if you don't know anyone that works there? What is the best way to possibly get in touch with someone who does work there if you live in the mainland???
 
What a novel idea! If only it were that simple... asking a strange person if you could buy them a drink and get to know them??? In LA??? kind of questionable!
 
Stugatz78 said:
What a novel idea! If only it were that simple... asking a strange person if you could buy them a drink and get to know them??? In LA??? kind of questionable!
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how do you meet girls in a bar? ;)

anyway, no self respecting pilot will turn down a free beer.

btw, you are not required to know someone. just throw in your application anyway.
 
I meant it's kinda weird hangin' round a bar stalking some flight crewmember waiting for them to come down for a drink then imposing by asking them about a job. Anyways... where do you send the app/resume?
 
Also heard that they 're gonna interview in August for a possible class due to attrition. Time to turn in your resume ...
 
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Do you mail it to them or what? I could'nt find where to submit it on the website?
 
When do you think they will replace those gas-hog, archaic 737-200s? They are probably paid for (low financing costs) but the operational costs help to squander any remaining margin.
 
OB-CPO said:
Really? Who? I don't think I do. :confused:
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Everyone should keep an eye out for a Plan B. If you don't - you're playing a financially dangerous game.

Aloha is a great place... it's got some awesome work rules. Pay could be a bit better, but it's up to par with majors that have taken a beating over the last 5-6 years.

The problem is that the cancer of the industry showed up in the islands and started wreaking havoc on the interisland market so that now it's having an impact on airlines that failed to grow/diversify and hence depend on interisland for at least a good chunk of their income.

To top it off, the market for pilots is turning around. For example, if you were an FO, would you stay at Aloha if you got hired at a corporate gig and your starting pay is equivalent of Aloha's top captain pay? Or would you stay at Aloha wondering if they'll be able to pull it through with this lawsuit if you had a number at a profitable legacy carrier and you can go back and make the same income that you do at Aloha minus the worry if you'll have a job in the near future?

Everyone is different, and it's pretty shallow to call someone an idiot for looking at career opportunities beyond Aloha given Aloha's problems.
 
Freight Dog said:
Everyone should keep an eye out for a Plan B. If you don't - you're playing a financially dangerous game.

Aloha is a great place... it's got some awesome work rules. Pay could be a bit better, but it's up to par with majors that have taken a beating over the last 5-6 years.

The problem is that the cancer of the industry showed up in the islands and started wreaking havoc on the interisland market so that now it's having an impact on airlines that failed to grow/diversify and hence depend on interisland for at least a good chunk of their income.

To top it off, the market for pilots is turning around. For example, if you were an FO, would you stay at Aloha if you got hired at a corporate gig and your starting pay is equivalent of Aloha's top captain pay? Or would you stay at Aloha wondering if they'll be able to pull it through with this lawsuit if you had a number at a profitable legacy carrier and you can go back and make the same income that you do at Aloha minus the worry if you'll have a job in the near future?

Everyone is different, and it's pretty shallow to call someone an idiot for looking at career opportunities beyond Aloha given Aloha's problems.
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So from your defensive response I take it you either know the guy really well or you are the guy.
Which is it? Where is "your friend" going?
 
What are they suing them for? Do they have grounds to kick them out? It really is terrible to see all the undercutting. However, that is what the free enterprise system allows.
 
ILStoMinimums said:
What are they suing them for? Do they have grounds to kick them out? It really is terrible to see all the undercutting. However, that is what the free enterprise system allows.
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"free enterprise" does not mean "free-for-all" or "no holds barred", there are still laws that one has to abide by. these are called anti-trust laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitrust
http://www.abanet.org/antitrust/
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Antitrust

lawsuits are usually launched on the premise of the defendant violating some law(s).

i am willing to bet that HAL and AQ have filed lawsuits because they are alleging that mesa is doing something that the free enterprise system does NOT allow.





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