Aloha Airlines files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy

[Getter]

Sign me up for that committee. Just say when & where.

How does Sun Country fit into all of this?

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

The fund has investments in Tiger Airlines in Singapore and Wizz Airlines in Budapest, Hungary."

Kinda gives new meaning to the term "taking a wizz"!

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

How does Sun Country fit into all of this?

Probably about the same as 717s, EMB-190s, Virgin, liquidation, no more interisland, and most other baseless rumors tossed out there. Then again, even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while!

 

[English]

For one - Sun Country fits in, as in, Aloha pilot salaries will now be in the Sun Country range.

www.airlinepilotpay.com


That's not a rumor - that's directly from a union officer's mouth.

 

[Getter]

Just a simple question. Ease up. Is your source reliable? Just because pay rates match; it doesn't mean a merger is in the works.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Suitors pursue Aloha Airlines

I don't see Sun Country mentioned in that article.

My sources say the big announcement is about a new route structure.

 

[CWASaab]

Guys, I don't think Sun Country was mentioned because of any type of merger or agreement between Sun Country and Aloha. But rather because their experience in Bankruptcy Court, led by Banmiller, could hold clues to what is in store for us out here in the Pacific.

Jonathan Ornstein, the chairman and CEO of Mesa Air Group, said the company has been approached by Aloha Airlines.

The thought that we went to him is pretty chilling.

 

[RJP]

I don't see Sun Country mentioned in that article.

My sources say the big announcement is about a new route structure.

Is this the route structure where AQ buys back WP and furloughs all the Island Air guys in order to keep the interisland business? Sure hope that's not the case.

Nothing good can come out of these lastest events.

 

[Full of LUV]

Don't they speak Hawaiin?

More cryptic crumbs for RJP...(don't say I never gave you anything...)

Aloha pilots can say hello to Sun Country...you figure it out...I'll give you til tomorrow at 2pm.

Shouldn't Aloha pilots say "aloha" to Sun Country vice "hello"?

 

[Sleepyhead]

So where was the big announcement today?????

 

[Josey Wales]

I read the posts here all of the time and rarely feel moved to write. But the first and second hand info I've heard the last few days on my trips is interesting. Namely, all of the AQ Big wigs from CEO to CFO returning en masse from Vegas quite happy. Apparently they met with a major casino operator (Boyd Gaming?) and Banmiller was "optimistic" whatever that means. Also talked to a fellow pilot who had John Adams on his a/c also returning from Vegas. Of course, Adams may simply be afraid to fly HAL in case they roughed him up in the lua, or there may be something to this. I too have talked to union "officers" and heard no mention of Sun Country, only talk of anonymous interest from who knows where, and of course the pain coming to our future earnings. The concessions will put us beneath everyone's payroll, so I don't see how it leads to Sun or anywhere else specifically. As for the big announcement, we all remember last years less than fulfilled expectations, and yet the folks in the red brick building seem to believe one is imminent. Very interesting.

 

[Nalo Boy]

Also talked to a fellow pilot who had John Adams on his a/c also returning from Vegas. Of course, Adams may simply be afraid to fly HAL in case they roughed him up in the lua, or there may be something to this.

The Adams story was made up

 

[English]

Boyd Gaming owns Vacations-Hawaii, offering charter flights from Honolulu to Las Vegas.

http://www.boydvacationshawaii.com/home/index.asp?

Omni runs those flights.

 

[Bandit21]

Once upon a time Ryan Int. flew DC-10 SFO-OGG-HNL-SFO, then later flew out of OAK for SunTrips...Then came along North American with 757's...Even though they had less seats, they were cheaper, hence Ryan Int lost the contract..Now just recently Ryan regained the contract with 757's and now North American is flooding cheap seats in order to do something with this 757. The point is these Charter / Travel agencies are always looking for a better deal...Hence it is not out of the possibility that AQ was able to under cut Omni on theri LAS-HNL route and get a contract.
I have no knowledge of this, but just saying this changing on Travel Agency contracts goes on all the time...

Again, once upon a time Ryan Int was flying large numbers of A320's for Apple Vacation...No USA 3000 is...The beat goes on...

 

[bigboy]

There is no way AQ could possibly undercut the likes of North American, Omni, Ryan, or any other non sched flying these charters. 737's just don't have the capacity. DC 10's, even 757's are much more economical for charters when compared to the 737.